Stewy Films: From Oakland Hustle to Visual Storytelling
🎥 From a $300 Canon T3 to shooting for Bay legends—Stewy Films joins Unquestionable The Podcast for a deep dive into his journey as one of Oakland’s most respected music video directors.
In this episode, we explore:
📸 The early grind of shooting rap and Spanish music videos that built his platform
🎬 Working with Bay Area staples like Livewire and building a unique cinematic style
💡 Why quality and shot composition will always outlast flashy effects
🤝 Balancing music videos with corporate work, documentaries, and personal growth
🌍 The evolution of social media, cancel culture, and why thick skin still matters
👨👩👧👦 Fatherhood, breaking generational curses, and raising kids with accountability
It’s raw talk on creativity, culture, and life beyond the lens—Stewy’s story is a blueprint for anyone chasing their craft while staying true to themselves.
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Transcript
I could tell, bro.
Speaker A:Like, I'll have that one person that just started making music, they'll pay me whatever they want because they think everybody else is paying me that much.
Speaker A:And then they pay me, let's say, for example, like, $2,000 for a video.
Speaker A:And then they uploaded a Spotify and Apple music and they made 50 cents off of it.
Speaker A:This shit.
Speaker A:I'm not doing music no more.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, exactly.
Speaker A:Like, they don't understand.
Speaker A:Like, it's.
Speaker A:Hey, you know, a Rolls Royce isn't built overnight.
Speaker A:It takes time to really, like, you know, build whatever you're really trying to build.
Speaker A:But most people, like I said, they get into whatever they get into.
Speaker A:For the WR Foreign.
Speaker B:Welcome back to this week's episode of Unquestionable Podcast.
Speaker B:You're with your boy Chris, Kev, and we got Stewie Films, bro.
Speaker A:Sir.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Appreciate you coming, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, thank you, bro.
Speaker B:But, you know, we started off every.
Speaker B:Every interview the same way.
Speaker B:Tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, who you are, and what it is that you do, bro.
Speaker A:So pretty much three films.
Speaker A:Born and raised in Oakland.
Speaker A:My parents are Salvadorian.
Speaker A:They migrated here, Was pretty much born over here.
Speaker A:Shoot music videos.
Speaker A:Been doing it for about 12, 13 years, something like that.
Speaker A:So for a cool little minute.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like I told you, bro, your name's been buzzing around, like, where we're from since 10 years ago when we were in high school.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Sit down with you.
Speaker A:For real, bro.
Speaker A:For sure, for sure.
Speaker B:No, bro.
Speaker B:But you talk about shooting videos.
Speaker B:What, for somebody who might have seen you, but might.
Speaker B:Might not know it was you.
Speaker B:Name some.
Speaker B:Some pieces of work that you had your hand in that you're most proud of.
Speaker A:Oh, there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:The thing is, I do, like, a lot of rap videos, but then I also did do a lot of Spanish videos and stuff.
Speaker A:And honestly, like, those are the ones that really, like, got crazy amount of views, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, red ones is what kind of put me on and everything.
Speaker B:But that global.
Speaker B:The global sound gets everywhere, bro.
Speaker B:So it's different.
Speaker A:I've definitely worked with all artists all around, you know, in the bay, Stockton, Sacramento, Louisiana.
Speaker A:Like, I've shot videos out of state and everything, so I work with a lot of people and, like, build a good platform as well.
Speaker B:No, that's dope, bro.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:And, you know, just to briefly go over it, let's.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You do have a big platform in the area.
Speaker B:I want to talk to you a little Bit more about like, you know, those early steps.
Speaker B:Tell us what got you into, you know, shooting in the first place and kind of like those early steps that helped you network and get to the point you are today.
Speaker A:Yeah, so pretty much fresh out of high school, like I've always liked music and so just like everybody, you know, just try to make beats and then try to rap too and do this and that.
Speaker A:Just kind of see what you kind of like.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So that was me pretty much from high school to I got a little older and around that time I was going to school and everything.
Speaker A:And I just didn't know what to do in my life.
Speaker A:I was just like lost in the sauce for a little bit.
Speaker A:So I was like, everybody's a rapper.
Speaker A:Let me try something a little different.
Speaker A:So there was really not that many people shooting videos around that time.
Speaker A:So I ended up just buying a little canon.
Speaker A:Spent like 300 bucks on it, a little T3.
Speaker A:I made a little post on Facebook or MySpace or something like that.
Speaker A:And I was like, hey, if you trying to shoot a video, boo boo.
Speaker A:One of my homies hit me, shot a video.
Speaker A:And ever since then, people were just with it.
Speaker B:That's dope, bro.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then after that, I just, I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker A:So I was struggling like crazy, bro.
Speaker A:Like I had a slow ass computer.
Speaker A:Other than my, my videos were overexposed.
Speaker A:Like I didn't know what I was doing at all.
Speaker A:I was just going in blind.
Speaker A:But rappers don't care about their videos.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hey, man, I'll tell you what, man.
Speaker C:Some of the videos that we've seen back when we were younger, we're like, damn, bro, that's just sick.
Speaker B:And just technology and everything has gotten so much better.
Speaker B:Like your now it's pro is so crisp.
Speaker B:Honestly, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, that kind of how it kind of just started going.
Speaker A:And then I just got like popular with it, like super fast, bro.
Speaker A:Just because like I said, there wasn't a lot of people that were doing it.
Speaker A:So that's like the big plus to it, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So right after that, I just started shooting for a couple of my boys in Oakland.
Speaker A:And then from there I got tapped in with like Livewire, like super fast, like within a couple months.
Speaker A:And then from there it just went up.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker A:Sick.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:Would you say Livewire, Livewire was pretty impactful for your career type thing?
Speaker A:Sure, for sure.
Speaker B:What other artists would you say also kind of help that early.
Speaker A:The early stages for sure.
Speaker A:My boy Chap, I don't know if y' all heard of him.
Speaker A:Young Chat from Oakland.
Speaker A:I mean, we had the whole Little Shady Boy movement from there down with Live Bar.
Speaker A:So it's just like we had a whole movement with them and then whole movement with them.
Speaker A:And it's like, for me, like I said, in high school, I used to listen to, like, Filthy J style and Little Blood, all that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I just, like, once I got to meet them and work with them, it was just like, you know, this.
Speaker B:Is for me type.
Speaker A:And they were with me right away.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, they didn't care about my videos.
Speaker A:Like, they just gave me opportunity and I took advantage of it.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:So what do you.
Speaker B:What do you.
Speaker B:I mean, going into that creative side a little bit, what would you say was, like, your main interest?
Speaker B:Was it kind of the shots, the storyline?
Speaker B:Was it kind of like, you know, effects?
Speaker B:Like, what got you the editing?
Speaker B:What got you really into it like that?
Speaker A:I mean, honestly, it was just more about the artists that I was working with.
Speaker A:Like, at first, it wasn't more about the.
Speaker A:The camera work and all that.
Speaker A:It was just like, you know, at first it's like, oh, I'm trying to work with this artist and this artist and this artist.
Speaker A:Like, around that time, it was the whole hpk, live wires.
Speaker A:The what?
Speaker A:I mean, like, those are my influence.
Speaker A:Like, I want to work with them one day.
Speaker A:And then, yeah, bro, just like, started going in and started meeting all these artists and networking and just boo, boo, boo, boo.
Speaker A:It created this little snowball, start rolling.
Speaker B:Got cracking right away, haven't looked back.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro, that's dope.
Speaker C:What would you say?
Speaker C:Honestly, One question that I already have for you is like, what would you say?
Speaker C:Like, cuz, you know, starting from when you started, when you kind of got like a.
Speaker C:Not like when you.
Speaker C:When you had that first robust.
Speaker C:Like, what music video, like, do you still remember to this day was like.
Speaker A:Your first real buzz, man, I never thought about it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I never really thought about it.
Speaker A:I kind of.
Speaker C:You know that moment where you thought like, oh, like, this is.
Speaker A:It's really up from here, honestly.
Speaker A:But damn, I never really thought about it, but I would say probably my second or third video I ever shot were for these.
Speaker A:I think they're from.
Speaker A:Where the heck are they from?
Speaker A:They were like, from Tracy or some small young dudes, bro, that got like a million views, like, in a couple months.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Second, third video I ever did.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker A:It wasn't even on my Stewie Films channel.
Speaker A:That's how, like, in the beginning it was.
Speaker B:Just blew up like, that's crazy.
Speaker A:After that, it was just, like I said, like, I met like a lot of people that are kind of big in Oakland and Bay Area, like super early.
Speaker A:So it just.
Speaker A:My name got a buzz super fast.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the big thing that helped a lot, bro, is around that time, like, there was really no outlets or platforms like that.
Speaker A:I think even this started around the same time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where people weren't even like on desert like that.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So all the artists that I was working with, they were all.
Speaker A:Let me.
Speaker A:I started my channel and they just.
Speaker A:Yeah, drop it on your channel.
Speaker A:Drop it on your channel.
Speaker A:Drop it on your channel.
Speaker A:And then YouTube was way better back then, bro.
Speaker A:Algorithm beautiful, bro.
Speaker A:Like, you'll drop a video and you get a thousand views in a couple hours, regardless of who you are, you know?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And now it's just like the influx of content hard to get.
Speaker A:You got before you upload, you know, Check, check, check, check.
Speaker A:All these boxes.
Speaker A:And it's crazy, bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So you got to name the file nowadays too, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it's crazy.
Speaker A:So that's one thing that really helped me a lot.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, Little Blood, Jay S, the filthies, they were letting me drop the videos on my channel.
Speaker A:And from there, like, oh, you shoot videos?
Speaker A:You do this, man.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:That's how.
Speaker A:Just build attraction.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:That they let you, like, you know, firsthand.
Speaker B:Just drop it on your channel.
Speaker B:Cuz like you said, it created.
Speaker B:It turned into like a whole platform in itself, you know, That's.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:Was that something you saw right away that you wanted.
Speaker B:You wanted to maintain like that.
Speaker B:That individuality in a sense, or did you not care?
Speaker B:You just wanted the videos?
Speaker A:Was living a moment.
Speaker A:I didn't really have a goal or a plan.
Speaker A:It was just going with the flow.
Speaker A:Because like I said, around that time, I was still working full time.
Speaker A:I was going to college full time.
Speaker A:And then I was shooting videos on the side, like after work or on the weekends.
Speaker A:So I was just like, okay, whatever.
Speaker A:I never thought about it.
Speaker A:Okay, this video got 10k views.
Speaker A:Oh, this video got 100k views.
Speaker B:It was just like you just throwing them out.
Speaker A:I need money right now.
Speaker A:Like, let's work, let's work.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And then after, like I say, the.
Speaker A:After the first Year once I got, like, 10k subs, I was, okay, this might be a thing.
Speaker A:And people were just hitting me.
Speaker A:Like, I said, my videos weren't that great back then.
Speaker A:Like, it is what it is, but it was just more of the.
Speaker A:The platform that I was building and doing all this stuff that just became this big thing.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, and then it built a huge portfolio that probably still pays off.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker B:No, that's films.
Speaker A:Movement.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:The movement, bro.
Speaker B:So I did want to ask you, bro, there is, like.
Speaker B:So there's a distinct, you know, Stewie, films.
Speaker B:Not distinct, but you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You could tell.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You have a similar.
Speaker B:Like, not similar, but a distinct style almost.
Speaker B:I want to say.
Speaker B:What do you credit that to?
Speaker B:What do you.
Speaker B:What do you think is your distinct style?
Speaker A:Once I really got into the creative side of the camera, it was just more like, I cared a lot about quality.
Speaker A:Once I kind of figured things out, I just care more about quality where we're just like.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I like cinematic stuff, and I like stuff to look a certain way where, you know, that's kind of the way I kind of build my look in a way.
Speaker A:Like, nowadays, a lot of people go straight to effects and do this crazy, but in reality is like, makeup.
Speaker A:Like, the videos ain't that great, but once you do all these effects, it looks like a lot better than what it is, you know, that's dope.
Speaker A:So for me, it's always been, like, no quality.
Speaker A:Like, quality, quality, quality, regardless of how simple the video is.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:Because your shot composition is dope, bro.
Speaker B:That's what I've noticed, too.
Speaker B:That's what I was.
Speaker B:Hella Chris.
Speaker B:I was gonna say.
Speaker B:I was gonna be like, bro, it's like the shot composition really, really separates it.
Speaker B:But I wanted to see kind of, you know, what your thoughts.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:I said, like, if it ain't broke, don't change it.
Speaker A:No, for sure.
Speaker A:So that's my thing.
Speaker C:What about influences?
Speaker C:Like, were you, like, you know, kind of younger, you know, looking at other people's videos, saying, like, damn, like, were there any influencers that you had, like, starting off or maybe in.
Speaker C:In more towards.
Speaker C:Into the game?
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, it was more like just watching videos on YouTube.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But like I said around the time, like, there wasn't a lot of people shooting videos in the bay area, and YouTube University wasn't even created yet, you know, so that's why the videos weren't as great because I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker A:I never went to school for it.
Speaker A:So I, I was just learning as I was going.
Speaker A:So watching people, how can I do this?
Speaker A:Why his highlights don't look like this?
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So we're just like watching people's stuff and then just get in the flow of it.
Speaker A:And then once I got better at it, understood it, like, I understand now, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Did you have any like directors that you, you really liked or anything even like old school directors or, you know, anything that you really just like gravitated to in that, in that sense, or was it more of just like you knew aesthetically looked good to you and that's what you trusted?
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, it just had a little eye for what I kind of wanted.
Speaker A:But it was like I said, the beginning stages.
Speaker A:I try to reach out to certain people and do this and that, but, you know, people want to gatekeep sometimes and do us and that.
Speaker A:So I was just like, you know what, I gotta figure this out on my own.
Speaker A:So there was inspirations, but it was just more like, okay, how can I do this?
Speaker A:But once you figure it out, like, bro, it was so simple.
Speaker A:It's the small things that make this big change.
Speaker B:No, definitely, definitely the.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm, I'm not good or anything, but I've learned so much just in having to shoot the podcast.
Speaker B:It's like, like you said, like the little, just little research, it really compounds to something.
Speaker B:Now you'll just be a little more comfortable with certain.
Speaker A:But like I said to the.
Speaker A:We were talking about, like, the cameras are way better now.
Speaker A:Like, oh, yeah, back then we didn't have 4K.
Speaker A:It was just canons.
Speaker A:Most of the time.
Speaker A:Everybody had a Canon.
Speaker A:Now you got the Sony's, the Lumix, like, yeah, it just straight out the box.
Speaker A:It just looks great already, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Compared to back then where it just.
Speaker B:You know, for real cameras.
Speaker B: These cameras are like from: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we, we tell a certain guest and they'll be like, what?
Speaker B:We're like, we just, you know, we, we wanted it to look good, but we also wanted it to be affordable.
Speaker B:Jumping into type thing, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:As long as you know how to like tweak the settings a little bit, you can, regardless of how new or.
Speaker B:Old the camera is, like, do you still shoot Canon?
Speaker B:Are you, Are you.
Speaker B:That's what my question was gonna be.
Speaker B:Is like there's so many people that are brand loyal, you know?
Speaker B:Are you brand loyal?
Speaker A:Nah, it's just I'm the most comfortable I shoot with Sony right now.
Speaker A:That's the one I'm most comfortable with.
Speaker A:But I also have a red camera that I don't use as often.
Speaker A:My play, I had a Lumix before my Sony, but whatever works, works.
Speaker A:Like right now everybody's super big on Sony just because of the noise reductions and low light and all this other stuff.
Speaker A:So whatever works, works.
Speaker A:But once you get into bigger productions, these cameras are nothing.
Speaker B:Yeah, compared to.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker B:Even these was like just learning more.
Speaker B:I was like, damn, like, you know, you could have got more but you know, you don't know at a time, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:It's all about learning.
Speaker B:But I eventually will upgrade to probably Sony or something.
Speaker A:Especially once you figure out like, okay, I understand my camera now.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, whatever camera you get next is super easy.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:A lot of people be like, I got your camera, but it don't look the same.
Speaker A:I'm like, well, you gotta understand the settings and everything first, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And also like, like we talked about even shot composition.
Speaker B:Like some people have the best camera in the world and they'll just have the ugliest shot cuz they just doing stuff like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like you really kind of have to have an eye for things if you don't know certain techniques or certain rules, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Sure, for sure.
Speaker C:It's a method to the madness though, because like he be trying to explain stuff to me and I'm just like, you know what, I'm gonna have to sit down and watch this video myself, bro.
Speaker C:Because like every single time this man tried to explain some like settings and stuff like that, I'm like, bro, you know what?
Speaker C:You gonna have to do this, bro.
Speaker C:Like I can't.
Speaker A:At the end of the day, if you really don't have interest for it, like it's not gonna like click, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:That's completely fine too, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It'S a, might be a crazy saying, but different strokes for different.
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:But I wanted to ask outside of music videos a little more.
Speaker B:I wanted to kind.
Speaker B:I've seen you do, you know, talking head work for companies and other stuff like that.
Speaker B:Are you, do you do other like documentary things?
Speaker B:Are you looking into doing stuff like that?
Speaker B:Or do you, do you.
Speaker B:It's Kind of music videos where your heart's at.
Speaker A:I mean it's, it's.
Speaker A:Music video is definitely the core of everything.
Speaker A:But I definitely anything that needs a video I've pretty much done already.
Speaker A:Like weddings, corporate work, interviews, like social media content, like a little bit of everything.
Speaker A:But it's just like my name is attached to music video.
Speaker A:So heavy.
Speaker A:Where it's just like, I damn, I gotta start a different company in order to branch out for different stuff.
Speaker A:Because especially when you start doing corporate work, you don't want to attach your name.
Speaker A:Then when they Google you and everything like, oh, like all this starts popping up where they're like, okay, well, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, it turns heads a little bit.
Speaker B:No, definitely you want like your portfolio to kind of be comparable to what the work that you're trying to get type thing.
Speaker A:Because I get hired for a lot of work that is in music video related just because of my name.
Speaker A:But it's just like once I start seeing them follow me and like corporate people like, okay, I can't be posting certain no more.
Speaker A:Like you got to try to keep it professional.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day like this who I am and I can't really like do too much about it.
Speaker C:Like he said, bro, the work speaks for itself.
Speaker C:So they, if they gonna want you, bro, hey, that's on them and they will, bro.
Speaker B:No, this is bro, like I said, it's more than just the shot composition or the camera or anything.
Speaker B:Like you, you definitely have a great talent for this.
Speaker B:And I like me getting more into it because I was kind of similar where I was into music and production.
Speaker B:I did my whole thing too and I, you know, fell on more podcasting type stuff.
Speaker B:But I've really gotten into the, the visual side of things and like trying to shoot more of like recap content.
Speaker B:I want to get into documentary spaces and stuff like that.
Speaker B:And just like senior, I think it's like dope.
Speaker B:It's like inspirational to me.
Speaker B:So I hope you, you know that.
Speaker A:Bro, once you do a little bit of everything is like, it is great because you get a, you know, help it.
Speaker A:It goes one hand in hand.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like if you're doing podcasts and then you understand the cameras, it's gonna help out a lot compared to just having a podcast and bad camera equipment.
Speaker A:No, definitely it's gonna make or break you type, you know, just get to know a little bit of everything for sure.
Speaker B:And all this like you, I mean all this too, it's like, you stumble on certain, like, mistakes or certain, you know, how you learn failures or things that you have to create solutions in the.
Speaker B:In the midst of it.
Speaker B:And it teaches you for, like, you know, if you were to want to get another thing.
Speaker B:So that's what I've been really trying to embrace.
Speaker B:And, you know, when we got focus issues or things like that, I'm like, damn, I beat myself up for it for a little bit.
Speaker B:But, hey, that's what makes it.
Speaker B:Try again next year.
Speaker A:Sometimes I get bored.
Speaker A:I'm like, bro, it's, like, super repetitive.
Speaker A:Like, I need something different or I'll go buy a new lens or something different just to keep that excitement going.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, no.
Speaker B:Yeah, we went out to SF yesterday last weekend and tried to shoot a little vlog, and it was.
Speaker B:You know, it was.
Speaker B:It turned out actually really good.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, now it makes me feel a little more comfortable to do more running gun stuff and go out there.
Speaker B:I always feel like I need tripods and, like, lighting, and I need a controlled environment, because I don't.
Speaker B:I'm not as good.
Speaker B:Like, I haven't had to just, you know, run and shoot.
Speaker B:So it's like that.
Speaker B:Trying to get that under my belt a little more is.
Speaker B:It's been a little cool, but nowhere near.
Speaker B:Nowhere near professional.
Speaker B:Just trying at this point.
Speaker A:Organic is the way to go, though.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, if it's organic and everything, it's gonna work regardless.
Speaker B:No, for real.
Speaker B:And like we were talking about before the podcast, bro, like, our biggest thing is just organic and authentic, and, like, as much as we can just be ourselves and talk about the stuff we like or talk to the people we're interested in and stuff like that.
Speaker B:Because, like, if other starts working, you got to start chasing other or be a certain way.
Speaker B:I don't want to ever be chasing views or be another way.
Speaker B:If something's gonna work, it's gonna work for something we.
Speaker B:We enjoy.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's how it is nowadays, though.
Speaker A:And that's the thing that really, like, pisses me off is, like, everything has to be controversial in order to be good.
Speaker A:And, like, I always tell people, just because you got a million views doesn't mean you're good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, this guy right here might be a great artist, but he's not getting the exposure because he's just making good music for this guy that's saying, you, you, and you.
Speaker A:It's gonna get way more views than everybody else.
Speaker A:You Know what I mean?
Speaker A:It goes with everything from the music videos to the podcast to everything, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, nowadays, it's not about how good you are, it's just about how popular and controversial you are.
Speaker B:And that's the sad part.
Speaker B:You're seeing that with like the influx of content and everything, it really is just who can grab attention for a little second.
Speaker B:It's not like the line has been blurred.
Speaker B:It's no longer about talent as much as it is just about attention seeking or grabbing, in a sense.
Speaker B:And some of the most talented people just, they're not interested in the town, in the attention, and that's what them over, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker A:And that's the thing, like lately, bro, I'm not gonna lie to you, these last few years, I have not been enjoying what I do for that exact reason.
Speaker A:It's like, like I said when I first started and because of the type of artists that were around that time, that's what motivated me to want to really do it.
Speaker A:And now it's just like I'm showing the videos, I'm just like, what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:It just kind of like, yeah, so it's just like.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:I don't know, bro, just the people that are popular aren't that good, respectfully.
Speaker A:And a lot of people that are really talented aren't getting the exposure, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:So they're giving up or.
Speaker B:Or just doing it at a way lighter or something.
Speaker B:Or people could be doing a lot more if they did want, you know, to be in front of these cameras and talk to people and stuff.
Speaker B:But oftentimes, like I said, they're not interested in the attention at all.
Speaker B:They're just like, shit.
Speaker B:If the music don't speak for itself, it don't.
Speaker B:Because realistically, right now, if you want to do a podcast, you want to do music, you want to do damn near anything, shoot videos, anything, you.
Speaker B:You damn near got to be a content creator at the same time, just to market yourself or just to.
Speaker B:Just to be out there enough for somebody to see what you're doing and like, be like, yeah, I'll with you.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And some people be gatekeeping their own.
Speaker C:Creativity, though, because of today's society.
Speaker C:Like, nobody wants to be on in the comments.
Speaker C:Nobody wants to be, you know, everybody wants to be perceived as like, oh, my shit's dope.
Speaker C:But sometimes people have that, you know, and that what's.
Speaker C:What's the imposters.
Speaker A:Imposter syndrome.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro.
Speaker C:Like that's just real.
Speaker C:That's just hella real.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's the thing that's not, I don't know, like I said, the whole thing that's going on with everything, it just, I just personally don't like it how everybody's so sensitive about any kind of topic.
Speaker A:We can talk about the smallest and somebody's gonna make a comment.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker A:The Internet is just messing everything up at this point where yeah.
Speaker A:You know, back then would make racist jokes and they'll just be humor.
Speaker A:It wouldn't even be racist.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like different races would roast each other and do all this and this is love at the end of the day, you know.
Speaker A:But now you say something not even direct racist.
Speaker A:You're like canceled.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or what did you mean by that?
Speaker B:You know, something.
Speaker B:And it's like people looking so deep or thinking.
Speaker B:I think what the thing is, is the Internet made everybody think their opinion fucking is valid or matters.
Speaker B:It's like, bro, back in the day you would mind your own business.
Speaker B:Why don't you now?
Speaker B:Because you have access to see what I'm doing.
Speaker B:You think you could talk about it?
Speaker B:I, I don't care.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I think that's the problem.
Speaker B:Like so many people just, just because they have the access to it, they feel like they have the ability to speak on it or to give you advice or this, that, the other.
Speaker B:It's like when do people realize like speak when spoken to, bro.
Speaker B:Like, you know, or more so just.
Speaker C:Keep it positive, bro.
Speaker C:It's like I, I hate people who just be, you know, the negativity in this world is just out of, it's out of pocket, bro.
Speaker C:It's insane.
Speaker C:Like you have so many people just putting out good content.
Speaker C:Good thing.
Speaker C:But there's always gonna be somebody, a hater in the comment, somebody trying to on you or something like that.
Speaker C:You can, you know, take it as motivation and you know, let it inspire you.
Speaker C:But nowadays it's like you can't scroll without seeing somebody on you in the comments or somebody making like some weird ass comment.
Speaker C:Like it's insane.
Speaker A:Yeah, and that's the thing.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:The Internet is just place where people feel comfortable giving their opinion when they were really never give that in public, you know.
Speaker B:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker A:But yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:I like getting deep into conversations like these two.
Speaker A:Like, why do you guys personally think the world is so sensitive right now, even though the Internet's been around for a very long time.
Speaker A:But these last few years, I feel like everything's been super sensitive as far as like any comment or anything like that.
Speaker A:Like, do you just feel like it's a higher above or just so many people are just commenting, so many opinions about it.
Speaker B:I think because we.
Speaker B:I've talked about this in the past, so I personally feel like our.
Speaker B:How we consume like news and entertainment and stuff has totally changed.
Speaker B:It went from we would consume news channels and, and these professional, you know, people to nowadays, like, you're kind of getting your news of this for like your favorite influencer or your favorite podcaster who's talking about this?
Speaker B:Like, you.
Speaker B:I'm saying, like, where it's like, I don't know, I feel like we've just.
Speaker B:Everything has changed to the point where now you, you can have direct commentary on what that news is, or you could have direct commentary on what's right or wrong.
Speaker B:Whereas back in the day we were watching it from a screen and able to talk about it around the table.
Speaker B:It's like it wasn't direct commentary.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:It's like I think they were always sensitive people in a sense, but I don't think they always had access to be able to, you know, they would just cry from their table like, oh, you stupid people don't know nothing about politics or something.
Speaker B:It is like now they're have a Twitter account that they can, you know, go on rants about and call you stupid and this, that.
Speaker B:And it's like, I think this, I.
Speaker C:Think, also blends in with our conversation.
Speaker C:What we're just having just the shift in social media too.
Speaker C:Like just the fact, given that people are able to solely express something like that just, it just, it, it don't work.
Speaker B:And like the shift of social media, like, when social media was first invented, it was a total different thing.
Speaker B:It was a social media was like for your social circle.
Speaker B:Like, now social media supposed to be.
Speaker C:For your friends and like, you know, interactions with your friends.
Speaker C:Do you tweet at your friends or you post with your friends or.
Speaker B:Yeah, now it's an online talent show.
Speaker B:Like, you're looking for followers, you're looking for supporters, you're not looking.
Speaker B:It's not like bro was on Facebook and you were putting like, think about the crazy you used to put on Facebook or MySpace and it's because you only had 35 people on that or like 100 people, but they're all from school and they're putting inside jokes and this, that, the other.
Speaker B:And it's like, nowadays, it's like, no, I gotta look aesthetic.
Speaker B:You gotta have a cool Drake lyric with it.
Speaker B:It got, you know, it's just all different, bro.
Speaker B:I feel like how we utilize the Internet is totally different.
Speaker B:It went from, like, we would consume, we would utilize it for connection, to now we utilize it for consumption, if that makes sense.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:Cuz what I've been noticing a lot, and I'm still trying to figure out why.
Speaker A:It's pretty dumb.
Speaker A:But it's like, right now, the biggest thing that really going on is the cancel culture.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Cancer culture.
Speaker A:So it's just like, say, for example, like, you guys get famous, somebody's gonna find your Twitter account from 10, 20 years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Saying you said with your homies.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:He's racist, he's this.
Speaker A:And I'm like.
Speaker B:And then you gotta put a.
Speaker B:Put a PRS apology letter to put together.
Speaker B:It's in front of your camera.
Speaker A:Like, y' all sensitive about everything, bro.
Speaker B:Like, everybody says, see, I'm just crazy, bro.
Speaker B:I kind of do believe, like, those people.
Speaker B:I mean, don't.
Speaker B:Don't get mad at me, but I kind of believe those people where it's like, you know, you kind of.
Speaker B:You let it become as big as you let it.
Speaker B:Like, you know, if you feed into it and do the whole apology tour and, oh, I'm so sorry and all that, like, people still just beat you down if you just keep going about this.
Speaker B:If you fall off for six months, they're like, oh, he obviously did something wrong.
Speaker B:But if you just keep going about your, like, the first two weeks or something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like your comments still be about it, but then over after a while, it just.
Speaker B:I feel like it tapers off.
Speaker B:And you see that with so many, like, comedians, and if they just keep going, it doesn't affect them as much.
Speaker A:But even then, it's just.
Speaker A:Like I said, it's just people would just find ways to ruin everything.
Speaker A:Like, as you said, like, just being negative.
Speaker A:Like, for example, I don't know if y' all watch Love Island.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was really just thinking about, bro.
Speaker A:Like, this is my first time ever watching it.
Speaker A:So I was just watching my girl, the.
Speaker A:I forgot the Latina girl, like, dig up her Twitter or whatever with her interview.
Speaker A:She was gone.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Now it was this year, it was.
Speaker B:Oh, the Julissa girl.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because she was on a podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So I'M just like, bro, you guys are so quick to try to find information about somebody.
Speaker A:And then that happened.
Speaker A:And then the Sierra right after.
Speaker A:And I was like, bro, it's like, it's not that deep, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's just like everybody on the Internet is making these body shaming opinions.
Speaker A:They're having these crazier way crazier opinions than what they said.
Speaker A:But it's just because like I said, once you step into that spotlight, people.
Speaker A:Okay, let's find something on a better.
Speaker B:It'd be the same person who has the.
Speaker B:The horrible comments that be the one that be like, take her off the show.
Speaker B:It's like it's all rooted in jealousy, bro.
Speaker B:It's all just like.
Speaker B:Because you.
Speaker B:You're able to compare yourself to everybody in the world now.
Speaker B:You're just feels like so much of the hate is just rooted in jealousy and insecurity in a sense.
Speaker A:You know, like even like I've seen Rush Hour where they put the little disclaimer in the beginning, bro.
Speaker A:Like, this is crazy, bro.
Speaker C:That's wild that you got to put.
Speaker B:A whole ass disclaimer on a movie.
Speaker A:That came out hell long ago.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I was watching something, they were talking about Bernie Mac and like, if you.
Speaker B:He would even be acceptable in today's day and age.
Speaker B:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:But it's like, bro, that's the.
Speaker B:We just grew up on and like, bro, to us, like, that was hilarious, you know?
Speaker B:And honestly, I will say, like, when we talk about hate comments, bro, some of the that are hate comments, it'd be funny.
Speaker B:And if it's funny, like, I think it's all.
Speaker B:You're like, that's hilarious.
Speaker B:I'll give it to you.
Speaker B:But if it's just like some straight hatred, like, just spewing out of your guts that I'm like, all right, bro, get some.
Speaker B:Get some more time in your life.
Speaker B:But if you're like, clowning or say something that, like, one of my homies might say, I'll be like, all right, you got me.
Speaker B:Like, that's funny.
Speaker C:But the famous saying, bro, go touch some grass, bro.
Speaker A:This is this new generation Z's or whatever it is, generations coming along.
Speaker A:They're super sensitive about everything.
Speaker A:Like, hell, yeah.
Speaker A:Back in our days, like I said, being racist to your friends, that's the way you get.
Speaker A:I was joking, but it was never serious.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, you call me a beaner and I would laugh my ass off.
Speaker A:Say something back, you know, being Being.
Speaker C:Black from a small ass white town, bro.
Speaker C:Crazy as bro.
Speaker B:No, I'm telling you.
Speaker C:Yeah, that like, like, like made you have thick skin.
Speaker C:Like nowadays, like people don't got thick skin.
Speaker C:I don't think skin at all no more at all.
Speaker B:And we talk about that too.
Speaker B:Like we, we all came from sports and that's how most of us got tight and was football, baseball, like different sports.
Speaker B:And it's like just like the.
Speaker B:Our coaches used to tell us or do or like yell at us and, and now seeing coaches get fired for nothing, it's like, bro.
Speaker B:So I think they kind of do need some of the tougher.
Speaker B:But it's like we, we, yeah, we've kind of got to a point where we protect, you know that so much.
Speaker B:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying like go strangle the kid, but it's like it's okay to have a kid run hella laps until he falls down and is like, yeah, you, you say he's being up, but I learned some of my biggest lessons on that field.
Speaker B:Up, like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Or having to do wind sprints all day after practice because I was talking too much.
Speaker B:This, that, the other.
Speaker B:It's like some of the biggest lessons I learned were probably, yeah, probably a little excessive, but it turned me into who I am.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It also depends on how you were raised too.
Speaker C:How you were raised.
Speaker C:Like, I know this might be like, I'm not trying to get all controversial, but it just came to my mind.
Speaker C:But like nowadays people are like, oh, you know, you got a gentle parent.
Speaker C:I'm not sure because you got kids.
Speaker B:And stuff like that.
Speaker C:You know, the whole gentle parenting and stuff like that.
Speaker C:I will be honest.
Speaker C:Like some family members and stuff like, you know, they don't really be.
Speaker C:They don't be on their kids, like how our parents used to be on us.
Speaker C:Like there's no way, like, you know, there's that whole entire conversation like I'm not gonna hit my kids or something like that, bro.
Speaker C:I got my ass whooped when I was a little kid.
Speaker C:And that's why I'm not like all these younger kids and these new generations that's like sitting behind a screen hella insecure, you know, or just like somebody says something to you and like, oh, hey, this person said this to me canceled.
Speaker C:Like, you know, so like there's a whole times.
Speaker B:Bro, bro.
Speaker B:There's a whole generation of kids who it's normal to have spam Accounts that you're like, you know, commenting whatever the you want on, like, but that is not normal to us.
Speaker B:Like, think about it, bro, you had one account, if you're lucky, if you got social media type, and it was like, bro, you're getting maybe 100 followers nowadays.
Speaker B:Kids are getting thousands.
Speaker B:Like, just because the reach and things, it's.
Speaker A:But it's just like you said, it's just the environment people grow up in nowadays.
Speaker A:It's just like, I get it.
Speaker A:Like, me personally, like, I don't want to, like, I want to find out a good balance with my kids.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, express your feelings.
Speaker A:You know, we'll talk about everything, but at the end of the day, like, you gotta put your foot down.
Speaker A:Like, nah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I run a ship here.
Speaker A:Like you.
Speaker A:I'll be going to the park, bro, and I'll be seeing these little kids, like, boss their parents around.
Speaker C:Little badass kids.
Speaker A:Like, but it's.
Speaker A:The thing is, like, we'll go to a park and like I said, like, my kids are very.
Speaker A:I teach them how to defend themselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And do all this and that.
Speaker A:Just because, like, I'm not gonna be there all the time to protect you, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The way these kids are just super sensitive about everything, where I'm just like, bro, these gentle parroting isn't working, bro.
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker A:And it's just like, like you just.
Speaker A:Like I said, it's just about finding a balance.
Speaker A:Like I said, don't hit your kids and abuse them and cause them trauma, but just find that balance where just like, they respect you, but they're not scared of you.
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker B:And I think that's part of it is like, I think, you know, some.
Speaker B:So many people are taught that, like, everybody is responsible for my feelings too.
Speaker B:Like, you're responsible for not hurting my feelings or things like that.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Whereas, like, we were kind of taught, you know, like, you're in control of your feelings.
Speaker B:Like, Whereas these kids are taught, like, no, that's not okay.
Speaker B:People shouldn't be saying that or something.
Speaker B:Like I was taught.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, that's not a nice thing to say, but you shouldn't be reacting like that.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, you, you're in sticks and stones.
Speaker B:Break my boat, you know, like that.
Speaker B:It's like, nowadays it's not kind of like that.
Speaker B:You know, I remember when I would deal with certain.
Speaker B:Like my dad would be like, yeah, it's not.
Speaker B:Not nice.
Speaker B:Like, you shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker B:But doesn't mean let them dictate how you feel, like you're fine, like, type thing.
Speaker B:It's like so many people focus on what other people are saying.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:And that's what I'm trying to do with my kids too.
Speaker A:It's just like I'd rather expose my kids.
Speaker A:Kids to reality of life instead of trying to hide everything.
Speaker A:How these parents are nowadays, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, they try so hard, like it's.
Speaker A:It is a really crazy world right now.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, the more they know, the more they understand, the more they're gonna be aware of their surroundings.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Compared to a kid that's never didn't know what weed was till they got hella older and they're like, what's this?
Speaker A:And they start tweaking out, you know, I mean, like, it's just.
Speaker A:It's better.
Speaker A:Like I told my wife too, like, it's better to just be transparent with your kids, have these conversations like, okay, this is what happens if you smoke crack.
Speaker A:This is gonna happen if you have sex without a condom.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, yeah, no, nowadays.
Speaker A:And I feel like the big problem with this, everything that's going on.
Speaker A:Nobody's being held accountable for anything.
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker A:All these robberies, slapping hand.
Speaker A:Yeah, you don't even go to jail.
Speaker A:Like, people knocking up girls, like, don't care about their kids.
Speaker B:Like, exactly.
Speaker A:I mean, like, people aren't being held.
Speaker B:Accountable, just fleeing from responsibilities.
Speaker A:So that's a big problem that we're having right now.
Speaker A:Now, bro.
Speaker B:No, I agree.
Speaker B:And I think, like, what you were talking about, like, what would you call that consequence?
Speaker B:Exposure, in a sense is big bro.
Speaker B:Because, you know, so many people, in a sense, they kind of lack that.
Speaker B:Like, or.
Speaker B:Or they've been sheltered so much and kind of with that shelter comes curiosity.
Speaker B:Like you said it was that curiosity comes up and bumping your head way worse than if you're like slowly just exposed to life and reality as it is.
Speaker B:Like, one thing I watched about parenting stuff is, like, you're so quick to like, correct your kids.
Speaker B:Mist Lake or something sometimes.
Speaker B:Let them.
Speaker B:If they're not gonna.
Speaker B:If they're not gonna die or something, like, let them fall.
Speaker B:Let them realize, like, oh, this hurts.
Speaker B:Because if you correct them the whole time, they're gonna keep climbing up that wall until they do fall.
Speaker B:And then the time they went all the way to the top because your dumbass wasn't there, they broke their head, you know, some.
Speaker A:Like that 100.
Speaker B:You kind of just have to expose your kids and, like, everybody has to be exposed to just what's reality.
Speaker B:And doesn't always make it right.
Speaker B:Doesn't always make it wrong, but it's.
Speaker A:It's how you learn.
Speaker A:That's how you learn.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like I said, like, it's like.
Speaker A:Like, remember when you were younger, you go to those house parties and that girl that never gets let out finally goes out and she just hoes around with everybody like, this is great.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So it just kind of, like, that's the thing.
Speaker A:Like, expose it.
Speaker A:But, you know, these are consequences.
Speaker A:This is what's gonna happen if you do this.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Just get into your understanding, you know what I mean, about everything that's going on.
Speaker A:Because like I said, it is a crazy world, but the more, you know, and protect yourself, the better you're gonna be in life, you know?
Speaker B:No, for real.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:That's for anybody.
Speaker B:Like, the more you're exposed to things just in the world and anything, like I've noticed, just the better you are at, like, processing certain things or.
Speaker B:Or understanding certain things or even just coming to terms with, like, you know, you're just one person.
Speaker B:There's so many different cultures, so many different ways of life, so many different things that can be right.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:That's, like, one thing I felt like I, like, growing up, I was like a super shy, quiet kid.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So I've always been, like, super aware.
Speaker A:Like, if I'll be around a bunch of badass friends, like, I know I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:But seeing them, okay, well, they do start doing that.
Speaker A:I'm gonna start up like them.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna start doing that and this and that and just, you know, out here in the Bay Area, probably was sacked too.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people do make a lot of bad decisions.
Speaker A:Influenced by your friends and everything, where.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:If you don't make the right choices, you're just gonna end up in a bad path.
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker B:And if you didn't see that earlier and later on in life, you meet somebody that you trust and they talk you into something, you'd be more susceptible to doing that.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker B:Like, it's just like anything.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's what it is, is it's like, yeah, no, that.
Speaker B:Okay, that might not be the right person to be around, but teach your kid wrong from right and they're gonna, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:They're gonna know how to, how to approach the situation.
Speaker B:Same you do, same we do.
Speaker B:Like, you know, that was because it was exactly taught to yours being taught to us that like, you know, you're in control of your actions, your friends aren't always going to do the right thing.
Speaker B:Doesn't mean they're not your friends, but it doesn't mean that you can do what they're doing type thing.
Speaker B:Whereas like, yeah, it's just lack of accountability, lack of exposure and just kind of letting these kids have access to everything in the world with almost no accountability.
Speaker A:It's especially right now.
Speaker A:These kids are getting their tablets younger and then they're getting exposed to a whole lot of.
Speaker A:Where they're just super curious, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Oh yeah, I've seen these little, little ass kids ready to just have sex already.
Speaker A:I was like, bro, you probably don't even got hair in your balls yet.
Speaker B:And seeing like little ass kids like have, have full ass like political pages where they're like a lobbyist.
Speaker B:And I'm just like, bro, that's a 12, 13 year old.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's crazy how like I hate this, Brad, but it's just like the way that women are sexualizing everything, it's just making this.
Speaker A:The younger minds, like just think about one thing only, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You can't watch a cooking video about our girl shaking her ass.
Speaker A:You can't watch educational videos without somebody trying to show their tits.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:It's just kind of like everything's being sexualized where, where these kids are just gonna have this perverted mind at a very young age and it's gonna just, you know, as a guy who sometimes we think with our other head sometimes where that's gonna really just not have you in the right direction where you want to go.
Speaker A:So I just don't like that, bro.
Speaker A:Like I said, like just women sexualizing everything and then just like it's working in their favor, but it's growing.
Speaker A:They don't realize it's really screwing up everybody.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:And they're just doing it for the attention, bro.
Speaker A:That's all there is.
Speaker C:And being of.
Speaker C:I was gonna say to kind of, you know, since we're talking about like, you know, fatherhood, having kids and stuff like that, like, it's crazy to think that we, you know, as a father that's what you have to think about.
Speaker C:You have to watch out for the well being of your kids, what they're consuming, what they're, you know, looking at online and stuff like that.
Speaker C:And I actually wanted to ask you too, like, how many kids do you have and like what, what do you always like, what's one thing that you always kind of like stand for?
Speaker C:Or what's some type of things that you stand for for your kids or some type of like, you know, something that you grew up with, like generational curses and stuff like that you wanted.
Speaker B:To, you know, break biggest values you.
Speaker C:Want to steal in your kids?
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker A:Like being a, a father is, is a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Speaker A:Because I got two kids, I got a two year old and a four year old boy and girl.
Speaker A:For me personally, it was like growing up as a kid, my dad was a provider.
Speaker A:He wasn't really like someone that was there for you.
Speaker A:Like I used to play, I signed up for football, he didn't want to take me to practice.
Speaker A:He's like, no, I'm just taking you to school, I'm not taking you to practice.
Speaker A:So I had to quit pretty much.
Speaker A:And once I got older, I had to get my driver's permit.
Speaker A:And he was like, I'm not taking you to practice.
Speaker A:I'm assault.
Speaker A:I'm just like, bro, like these are things you're supposed to do as a father, you know, I mean like practice with me, do this and that, sign me up for sports.
Speaker A:Never did none of that.
Speaker A:So I was like, you know what, When I have kids, I want to make sure, you know, I'm able to break all these curses, you know, I'm pretty sure y' all too.
Speaker A:Probably never really had a conversation with your dad about life.
Speaker A:It was just like, like the man makes money and provides and you know, that's all responsibility.
Speaker A:Like nah, bro.
Speaker A:Like things are changing a lot.
Speaker A:Like dads are actually being a lot more involved in kids life, you know.
Speaker A:But there's a lot of dads that are not in their kids life at all, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So for me it was just more like I said, like breaking those curses, like being in your kids life, having these conversations.
Speaker A:Like I said, like I'm from Oakland, it made me who I am.
Speaker A:But it's like I said, it's also a curse as well.
Speaker A:Because the environment you grew up in, like it could either make you or break you, bro.
Speaker A:So like I would say, like, 90 of my friends are still doing the same that we're doing 15, 10 years ago, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, they never really grow, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So for me, like I was telling you earlier, like, I moved out to the Valley because I didn't want my kids in the environment.
Speaker A:But we just moved back and I'm just like, you know what?
Speaker A:This might build them some character.
Speaker A:Like, okay, we're just, you know, look like if you guys start doing, you know, they're small right now, but eventually when I get older, I'll be like, you know, y' all start doing drugs, this is how you're gonna end up.
Speaker A:You start doing this, this is how you're gonna end up.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:Or even seeing that at a young ass age at 4, 5, 6, and.
Speaker B:Like, oh, this is no consequences.
Speaker A:But even then, like, I remember when I was younger too.
Speaker A:Like, I never really thought about that.
Speaker A:I was just eat crackheads or knocks outside or thirst, but I never really thought about that.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But now I'm just like.
Speaker A:Like, I could, you know, teach my kids all this stuff, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:I hate, like, spoiled kids because they're not exposed to, you know, the real world.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, me coming from nothing, it made me like a real hustler.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's just like, if you can't give your kids everything, they're not gonna have that hustler ambition.
Speaker A:They're gonna be like, well, my daddy could give it to me.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:I mean, like.
Speaker A:Like one thing I always tell my wife too, like, if I were ever to become rich, I would give it everything away.
Speaker A:I would change people's lives, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, a thousand dollars to me might not be.
Speaker A:But a thousand dollars to you might change your life, you know?
Speaker A:So it's just like, those are the type of things that I want to implement to my kids.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, you might have these games and these toys and everything, but you go to a third world country or you go to even, like, kids in your school.
Speaker A:Like, my son just started school this year, and some of these kids, you could tell, they're.
Speaker A:They're struggling.
Speaker A:I'm just like, I've seen this little boy, bro, he's probably like four, walking.
Speaker A:Walking to school by himself stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah, all right, bro, where's your parents at?
Speaker A:And I'm just like.
Speaker A:So it's just like I said, like, my kids are going to be exposed to that where it's just like, this is A reality.
Speaker A:Like, you know, get your together.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I feel like it's just a way to build character with your kids and change their perspective on life, you know?
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:And I think it's big that you said that, the spoiled thing too, because I think you could really tell a lot about like a parent by an.
Speaker B:By an appreciative kid.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, kids that are taught appreciation at a young age regardless of price or this.
Speaker B:That like just really taught to just appreciate somebody for the effort or for whatever it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, be grateful for it.
Speaker A:Like, you guys, you know, we're grateful to be.
Speaker A:Be able to do this podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, no, you're not promised anything.
Speaker A:Like, you know, like, there's probably other people that wish they had enough for.
Speaker A:To buy a camera, do their own podcast.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know, every day, you know, just thank God, be grateful for everything and just make the best out of it.
Speaker B:You know, 100, a hundred percent.
Speaker B:I think that's, you know, like you said, some of these kids nowadays are spoiled.
Speaker B:They don't really realize that, you know, nobody, nobody has to do those things.
Speaker B:The same thing.
Speaker B:Even we talk about the feelings.
Speaker B:Nobody has to care about your feelings.
Speaker B:Realistically.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker A:People feel entitled to it.
Speaker A:Like, I'm sad.
Speaker A:Come check on me.
Speaker A:Like, nah, get your eyes up and do something about it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Stop posting a texted story on Instagram and go get your paper.
Speaker B:I'm just kidding.
Speaker C:It's good, it's good to hear that though stuff because, you know, coming from, you know, somebody who has kids, you know, speaking, you know, speaking with people who don't have kids, it's like, damn, bro.
Speaker C:Like, I'm really gonna be in that position soon too.
Speaker C:Like, you know, just bringing kids into the world, it's a whole entire different topic.
Speaker C:And that's why we have these conversations, bro.
Speaker C:It's just like, you know, all these conversations can reach an audience or people can relate to it.
Speaker C:And it's not just the clickbait.
Speaker C:It's not just the, you know, all the.
Speaker A:Because nowadays it's going to get you viral.
Speaker C:Like, you know, this is the real authentic authenticity that we like to.
Speaker A:You know, because nowadays I see this a lot.
Speaker A:Like, everybody wants kids.
Speaker A:I want kids.
Speaker A:They're cute.
Speaker A:Like, nah, bro.
Speaker A:Just like, you got to know what comes with it, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, you become their personal chef.
Speaker A:You become their little.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, and you're living for more than just yourself.
Speaker B:Like, you have to put their well being in front of your own.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's like you can't just sleep in, bro.
Speaker A:These kids wake up at 6am like it's a lot you gotta adapt to.
Speaker A:And that's why like, like I said, a lot of people can't handle that.
Speaker B:Everybody want a kid, but not everybody wants to be a parent.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Wanna, you know, I mean, you got your Instagram dads take a picture with their kids, but they're never really in their lives.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:So just for the gram or.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, like I tell everybody, even my friends, like, they'd be like, you got cute kids.
Speaker A:I'm like, bro, it takes a lot of work, bro.
Speaker A:Like, being a parent is, is a lot of work.
Speaker A:So if y' all plan on having kids anytime soon, like, you just got to prepare yourself, bro.
Speaker A:Like, it's never really the right time, but just know what comes with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:And I wanted to ask like, did parenthood really shift your, your mindset and your perspective on certain things?
Speaker B:Like, is that what kind of, kind of, you know, built some of like how we're even talking about, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because of like, even before this conversation, I don't think about that every day because I don't have that reminder.
Speaker B:But you're absolutely, you're absolutely right.
Speaker B:You're bringing a child into this world and you have to realize like they're going to be taught wrong things right and left, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:They didn't choose to come to the world.
Speaker A:He chose to bring them into here to this world.
Speaker A:So a lot of people, like I said, like, you just gotta know what you're getting yourself into.
Speaker A:It definitely like, like I knew I wanted a kid.
Speaker A:And it's like I said, like once I had my kid, it definitely changed my mindset on a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker A:But it's just like I said, it's like even prior to that, like I said I had a dad, but he wasn't really there as much as I needed him to.
Speaker A:So I was just, you know, before kids, you're just a dumbass.
Speaker A:Like, dude, you just do a whole bunch of other.
Speaker A:Where you're just like when you finally have.
Speaker A:Once I finally had kids and settled down with my, with my wife, I started making way better decisions as far as like financial decisions, other little stuff, like, you know, just having different kinds of Morals and different things that I actually appreciated more than before I even had kids.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, bro, run it.
Speaker A:Like, I know we drifted away from the video, but around the time when I was really, really popping.
Speaker A:Bro, I'm not even trying to be cocky or nothing, but I was getting so much money that if I had real guidance with it, I could have did a lot more better for myself and for my kids.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, but that's where it comes.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, right now it's just like, can't do nothing about that.
Speaker A:You gotta learn from your mistakes.
Speaker C:But that's that real reflection, though.
Speaker A:That's a real reflection where I'm just like, okay, well, I didn't have the opportunity, but guess what?
Speaker A:I got kids now, and I could change that for you.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, and I've noticed that too, is, like, it changes a lot of people's perspective from the right now to.
Speaker B:To the future.
Speaker B:In a sense, you know, you're thinking.
Speaker B:You're not thinking so far about today and tomorrow, what you're doing this weekend or whatever.
Speaker B:You changed your whole perspective to, you know, five, 10, 20 years down the road.
Speaker B:Like, where.
Speaker B:Where am I going to have these kids?
Speaker B:You know, foundation set?
Speaker B:Where am I?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:You know, just different things like that.
Speaker B:What values are you going to do?
Speaker A:Exactly, Exactly.
Speaker B:You know, who do I want around my kids?
Speaker B:That's another big thing.
Speaker B:Like, you're not thinking that when you're just chilling.
Speaker B:You're just like, oh, no.
Speaker B:Yeah, pull up.
Speaker B:But now you're, like, probably way more selective on who comes around or things like that, you know?
Speaker A:So it just changes everything.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, a lot of people don't grow out of whatever phase they're in sometimes.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people my age still.
Speaker A:Like, I'm still young, but I'm older to a point where I don't got to be at a club no more.
Speaker A:Like, I don't got to be out there drinking, doing this and that.
Speaker A:But people my age and even older, like, what's good tonight?
Speaker A:Like, bro, be with your kids, bro.
Speaker A:Like, do some family, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, like I said, I'm still young, but I'm really like an old man now.
Speaker A:Like, I wake up super early.
Speaker A:I like, you know, having kickbacks in my house with family, with kids.
Speaker A:And, you know, I mean, like, my life revolves around my kids.
Speaker A:My kids don't rall around my life like that.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And that's the thing that people miss up on.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, they have kids and they still want to go to the clubs, they still want to go out drinking.
Speaker A:They drop their kids off to go do.
Speaker A:No, do whatever the hell they want.
Speaker A:Like, nah, bro, like, you brought the kid into his life.
Speaker A:Like, you gotta make your world around them.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, definitely, Definitely.
Speaker B:And it like, you know, that's.
Speaker B:That's a obligation that you kind of unwritten obligation that you signed yourself up for.
Speaker B:Not a lot of people are actually like, step up to the plate like that.
Speaker B:So it's dope to hear that perspective.
Speaker B:And you know, is like, he even said it's just dope to have these conversations and be able to, you know, we're gonna put stuff out and you know, if clips.
Speaker B:If people have different opinions, they're entitled to it.
Speaker B:But it's not controversial because we're not.
Speaker B:We're being authentic.
Speaker B:We're talking about real.
Speaker A:That's like, you know, it could be the small conversation that we're having that could change the perspective of once we leave the room of somebody or one of us in a room, you know.
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker A:It's just like, I mean, like I said, like, like conversations like, these are what's better for your mental health instead of like, hey, bro, so you shot a video for this person?
Speaker B:Yeah, this person get mad for sure.
Speaker B:And so many people just focused on that or like some type of provocative, like, you know, oh, so who.
Speaker B:Who would you say was the hardest to work with?
Speaker B:It's like, bro, why really don't got money?
Speaker B:You know, it's like, why do you.
Speaker B:Why does that matter, bro?
Speaker B:Like, we all understand, you know, like, we might add.
Speaker B:We might ask about, like, how it is dealing with rappers, like, in general, in a sense.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But it's not like, you know what, really.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What matters is, and especially in this po, like doing podcasts or like this, it's like, I think so many people go about it just trying to highlight the person or something, which is great.
Speaker B:You want to highlight the person, but you also want to highlight that the person is human.
Speaker B:You want them, you want them to see it.
Speaker B:Like if you were hanging out or talking to them.
Speaker B:So what value do you bring if we're just here like, okay, so I saw you were.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:It's no value.
Speaker C:We see your work, bro.
Speaker C:We see that you got this person, this person and all this other stuff.
Speaker B:But it's like, let's see the person behind the camera.
Speaker C:Let's see the person approach to it.
Speaker A:Yeah, because that's the thing with me, bro.
Speaker A:It's just like, when I started showing the videos and stuff, like, this whole time I had an image in his head.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm about to go shoot with this person.
Speaker A:He must be like this.
Speaker A:He must.
Speaker A:Yeah, I get there, bro.
Speaker A:They're like the complete opposite.
Speaker A:I get so disappointed where I'm just like, okay, I understand it now.
Speaker A:They're entertainers.
Speaker A:It's an image that they have.
Speaker A:But 90 of the time, they're still just regular humans or they're.
Speaker A:They're really not what you think they are.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker A:So very.
Speaker A:From the beginning, I just, like, I said, like, that's a big reason why I don't get starstruck or, oh, I'm shooting with this.
Speaker A:Like, at the end of the day, everybody's just regular people just trying to do what they do.
Speaker A:And 80 to 90 of the people just have a certain image, but once you just on some regular.
Speaker A:They're totally different.
Speaker B:No, and I think that's a big thing.
Speaker B:People don't realize, like, even with us doing this, to be able to sit down with people.
Speaker B:You would think, like.
Speaker B:Like, certain people, like, were the coolest to talk to this.
Speaker B:That the other.
Speaker B:Where some of them were.
Speaker B:But then some of it's like, bro, the best episodes just be ones where you just literally forget that you're talking about anything.
Speaker B:Like, just get caught up in just the.
Speaker B:Either banter or get caught up in jokes or get caught up in stories and stuff like that.
Speaker B:Because we want to hear the stories that you would tell, like your homeboys or like, you know, like.
Speaker B:Like that we don't want to.
Speaker B:Like, there's enough.
Speaker B:Like, there's enough breakfast clubs like it.
Speaker B:We don't need that.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And I think that's so many people's focus is just, hey, if I get their name on it, it's gonna do well.
Speaker B:But that's not what works nowadays.
Speaker B:Yeah, the name isn't enough.
Speaker B:Nothing's in that.
Speaker B:Because that same person's probably gone on 20 other podcasts or 20 other interviews.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, the.
Speaker B:Just the.
Speaker B:It's the same for everything nowadays.
Speaker B:Like, you know, there's so many videographers to choose from.
Speaker B:There's so many interviews to go to.
Speaker B:This, this, this, like, what makes you.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And I think that's why you're so special in what you do is you have a clear aesthetic on what makes you you.
Speaker B:And that's what the people we like to talk to are.
Speaker B:The people that we feel like they have something that makes them them.
Speaker B:Or like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because it's like, what are we gonna, you know, what value do we bring you or them by just being like, hey, so what was it like working with this person?
Speaker A:Because I ain't gonna lie, bro.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people, A lot of people get lost in the sauce.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people want to shoot videos just to be around rappers.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, you'll probably.
Speaker A:I don't mean.
Speaker A:I don't know how if you guys are around, like, like artists or famous people or whatever, but you'll see the people that are there for Instagram.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, look, I'm around this person today.
Speaker A:Or, you know, I mean, it's just like, oh, look who I'm shooting for today.
Speaker B:Like, in the background, just.
Speaker A:And then, like, especially, like, a lot of cameramans right now, like, they want to be around rappers and start low key being, like, a rapper.
Speaker A:They saw, they'll go buy a chain, they'll go do it.
Speaker A:They'll get designers, like, who's the.
Speaker A:Who's the director here?
Speaker A:And they're just hella flashy.
Speaker A:And I was like, bro, like, stop.
Speaker C:Everybody want their own shine, bro.
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker C:You got that?
Speaker B:You got that?
Speaker C:Well, in today's terms, on social media, you'd be seeing, like, the cameraman, Johnny the.
Speaker C:Johnny the pipeline to, you know, him streaming by himself and stuff.
Speaker C:Like, he did it.
Speaker C:He, you know, started off, you know, on the cameraman and stuff, but he realized that, hey, bro, I can be like this guy too.
Speaker C:Like, I'm not saying he wanted to be like him, but people see that, you know, they.
Speaker B:They get that.
Speaker B:You know, that's the thing, though, like you said, bro, everybody's doing it now, though.
Speaker B:You're having producers starting to rap.
Speaker B:And that's what you're saying is if you love something.
Speaker B:I mean, that's what I'm saying too, is if you love something, like, it'll work, it'll translate.
Speaker B:But when you're doing for views, you could tell, bro, when somebody just popped off on Tick Tock because of a funny thing and they just drop a rap song or something, you could tell you ain't been rapping for three years.
Speaker B:Like, bro, I could tell.
Speaker B:Like, dog, you just threw a YouTube beat on and Just like Aaron the plumber, bro, why'd you start rap?
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Like, you were funny, but you didn't need to start rapping.
Speaker B:Like, that's just how I feel.
Speaker B:Like, you don't like.
Speaker A:But they see.
Speaker A:They see what kind of pays and what is working for everybody.
Speaker A:So people.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, just with anything, like, people want to get into whatever's hot because they see people are getting paid.
Speaker A:You see how many people are streaming right now?
Speaker B:Hell, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:They're not streaming because they like streaming.
Speaker A:Like, you know how hard it is to be a streamer, bro.
Speaker A:Podcasting and streaming is like two different worlds, bro.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Streaming, bro.
Speaker B:You have to be on camera.
Speaker B:There's no editing.
Speaker B:Like, you're live 24 7.
Speaker B:You have to have high energy.
Speaker B:Like, you see Kai screaming at the mic every five seconds.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:And you have to be okay with talking to yourself for, you know, reacting.
Speaker B:I. Bro, I couldn't even keep.
Speaker B:Bro.
Speaker B:Imagine thinking of content for 24 hours straight.
Speaker B:Like, how would you keep somebody entertained?
Speaker A:That's why I was very little or very successful in the wrestling experimenting.
Speaker A:But it's just.
Speaker A:Like I said, it's just part of the game, I guess.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:And I don't get me wrong, I think part of it's cool, like, being able to see, like, Rex Life, Raj and some of these artists that are going on Twitch and kind of doing more behind the music stuff and get.
Speaker B:You're getting a little bit more of the personality.
Speaker B:Like, it is cool.
Speaker B:Like, I think that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's really cool for your fan base and your pipeline of that.
Speaker B:But I agree with you.
Speaker B:If somebody's doing this just to.
Speaker B:Because they think it's gonna, like, you're not gonna be DDG tomorrow.
Speaker B:Like, it's not.
Speaker B:It's not gonna work out like that.
Speaker B:Like, if you're doing that because you understanding that access is a currency in today's day and age, go for it, you know, and do it to build up what you're doing.
Speaker B:But if you're just doing it just because other people are doing it, it's like, bro, it's never gonna work.
Speaker B:Whatever's gonna work is what you water, and you're only gonna water what you love.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So that's why people.
Speaker A:A lot of people don't last long.
Speaker A:Like, like I said, with everything, like, they'll chase the money.
Speaker A:Like, that's the thing that's ruined everybody and everything.
Speaker A:Like, I tell you, like, if I Was to ever become rich, I want to give it away.
Speaker A:Because at the end of the day, like, yeah, money can buy happiness, but at the end of the day is like, is building, you know, friendships, family experiences and everything.
Speaker A:That's what's going to make you happy.
Speaker A:You know, like, you'll see people do like, I forgot that little white boy's name.
Speaker A:He's a streamer.
Speaker A:Got in a car accident.
Speaker A:Pretty sure it was on purpose.
Speaker B:First thing I did already.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, like, come on, bro.
Speaker B:Like, I crashed my McLaren.
Speaker A:My McLaren, I gotta drive my white one now.
Speaker A:Like, come on, bro.
Speaker C:Like, it's just stupid.
Speaker A:It's corny, bro.
Speaker B:But that's what they came up on.
Speaker B:They came up on flexing.
Speaker B:And this is cool, and that is cool.
Speaker B:And it's like to us, bro, I think we just.
Speaker B:That wasn't what was sold to us at a young age.
Speaker B:Like, like the.
Speaker B:You're talking about what started your passion was doing because the fact that you love music, right?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:That like we're doing, bro, honestly, we love this.
Speaker B:Like, we're, we get to talk to our friends.
Speaker B:Like, you know, it's like we're not doing none of this for clicks.
Speaker B:And if we were, it wouldn't get it still like hasn't got nowhere, don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:But I'm just saying, like, it wouldn't like it.
Speaker B:There would be no way because we would just be have no identity.
Speaker B:We would be chasing this, chasing that.
Speaker B:You know, it's like, like so many people forget that that passion is what's going to drive you to success.
Speaker B:It's not just there's not going to be an opportunity.
Speaker B:And so many people are opportunists now where they think like, oh, this is rolling.
Speaker B:Let me just roll with it.
Speaker B:My boys popping.
Speaker B:Let me get into DJing, bro.
Speaker B:But if you don't love that, you're not gonna be good.
Speaker B:You're gonna up his show and you're gonna end up getting fired in two years anyway.
Speaker A:Because the big problem where everybody is even a rapper, videographer and everything is once you're doing it for fun, like, you guys probably aren't making much money or anything at all.
Speaker A:Anything, bro, but it's just because you guys love it.
Speaker A:Same thing like when I started, like money, but it wasn't really like I could quit my job, I could do this for a living type, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But it's like once you get to that level where that's your only source of income, that's when people really Start chasing certain type of content, certain type of videos, certain type of artists, certain type of guests, where it just really waters everything down, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, like I said, like, when I first started, like, a lot of it was just fun.
Speaker A:Like, I just wanted to be around, you know, the HPK is the live art, the jack is, you know, I mean, that's what the money's cool and everything, but it was just more of the experience and being around the environments.
Speaker A:But once I quit my job and went full time on the camera, why the am I here?
Speaker A:But it just, like I said, it just becomes the thing where it's just like, you know, you got to say yes to a lot of people, even though that's not what you like.
Speaker A:And especially recently, like I said we're talking about earlier, like, a lot of this music is not that great.
Speaker B:And, bro, if you didn't love what you did in the first place, bro, you wouldn't even be able to get through it at all.
Speaker B:It's already hard.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like I was saying too, like, that's a big reason why I try to charge a lot to get away from certain artists.
Speaker A:But a lot of times they're still.
Speaker A:Pay me whatever.
Speaker A:Like, sometimes I'll even charge way more than I would charge just to them to back off.
Speaker A:But they'd be like, yeah, when?
Speaker A:How can I send you the money?
Speaker A:I'm like, bro, I don't want to shoot it.
Speaker A:But then they're still doing it.
Speaker A:I'm just, oh, my God, why am I here, bro?
Speaker A:Like this and that.
Speaker A:But it's just like people.
Speaker A:I don't know, bro.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:People's mentality is just, like I said, they want to get famous for the wrong reasons.
Speaker B:And is that.
Speaker B:Does that kind of add to it?
Speaker B:Is it like not only just the music and talent behind the music, but who also who the artist is and like, their intentions behind it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:Because you could feel it, you know, when this is just like, you know.
Speaker A:Like, okay, I could tell you just start rapping last week.
Speaker A:I mean, so a lot of times it's like people don't understand how difficult it is to be an artist.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, like it's really difficult to be an artist and make good music.
Speaker A:So a lot of people think, well, he's not that great, he's popular, he's getting money and do something.
Speaker A:But it's just like I said, like, being behind the scenes, like, I get to see how they really are.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I can see how much they're struggling.
Speaker A:Like, I can see this and that.
Speaker A:Like, it's not everybody, but it's a good majority of people.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So I could tell, bro, like, I'll have that one person that just started making music.
Speaker A:They'll pay me whatever they want because they think everybody else is pay me that much.
Speaker A:And then they pay me, let's say, for example, like, $2,000 for a video.
Speaker A:And then they uploaded a Spotify and Apple music, and they made 50 cents off of it.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:I'm not doing music no more.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, exactly.
Speaker A:Like, they don't understand.
Speaker A:Like, it tell you to build a Rolls Royce isn't built overnight.
Speaker A:It takes time to really, like, you know, build whatever you're really trying to build.
Speaker A:But most people are, like I said, they get into whatever they get into for the wrong reasons.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker B:And people don't realize, like, bro, whatever artistry it is, an artist needs a portfolio, polio before they're an artist.
Speaker B:Like, realistically, just because you did one song doesn't make you a rapper.
Speaker B:Like, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:And I don't mean it in a rude way.
Speaker B:I just mean it in, if you really want that, like, you love that, and if you love that, you're gonna do it more than once.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:That's just how it is.
Speaker C:People crave the overnight success.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker A:It was like, overnight success is just clout that's momentarily, you know?
Speaker A:I mean, like, if you really want to be somebody that lasts long, you actually really care about making music.
Speaker A:It's like, everybody you see that are popular right now, you might have just heard of recently, but they probably been grinding for 10 years before.
Speaker A:Yeah, before they got famous.
Speaker A:And a lot of people don't understand that.
Speaker B:No, they don't see that.
Speaker B:Like, we.
Speaker B:We talked about it.
Speaker B:Like, Baby Face, right, Was.
Speaker B:Talks about that all the time.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker B:He was doing this for 10 years before anybody even knew his name.
Speaker B:And like, that.
Speaker B:And it's like, so many people think if the first five songs don't hit, it's, I gotta quit.
Speaker B:But it's like, nah, bro.
Speaker B:You got to change your whole perspective.
Speaker B:Are you doing it for it to hit, or are you doing it because you love the music?
Speaker B:And if you love the music, that'll drop.
Speaker B:It'll hit one day.
Speaker B:Like, something's bound to hit.
Speaker B:Like, bro, that's how.
Speaker C:That's how I feel about the podcast.
Speaker B:Like, Everything's gonna hit.
Speaker C:Not everything's gonna hit, but at the same time, you progressively keep putting in work for the right reason.
Speaker C:It's gonna take you somewhere.
Speaker C:That's the way I truly feel about.
Speaker B:And you can look back and see the.
Speaker B:The vis.
Speaker B:The visible progress.
Speaker B:Like the same way like we talked about, like, if you do little bits of, like, research, you can.
Speaker B:It compounds quick.
Speaker B:You'll see the progress.
Speaker B:It's like, it's just like anything.
Speaker B:And that's what you have to have is some type of driver, some type of passion behind some.
Speaker B:And so many people right now are just lacking that they're doing it for reasons they don't even know up exactly.
Speaker B:It's like to be the coolest in the friend group.
Speaker B:That's all you want.
Speaker A:Like, you see how many people really want to be a rapper or really want to be a videographer, a streamer or podcaster.
Speaker A:But it's like I said, at the end of the day, all they're chasing is money.
Speaker A:It's not because of what career it is.
Speaker A:It's just the money, bro.
Speaker A:Like, like I said, it's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people see me and be like, I want to shoot videos like him, but they don't see how long it took me, how much grind, how much this and that it took me to get to where I'm at.
Speaker A:Yeah, and a lot of people just want the overnight success and it just doesn't really work.
Speaker A:And that's why some people come in and go out, and some people really last 10 plus years for, you know, certain reasons.
Speaker C:And that's the thing.
Speaker C:Authenticity is key.
Speaker C:Authenticity is key.
Speaker C:That's just the.
Speaker C:That's literally.
Speaker C:I would put that as the.
Speaker C:The thumbnail.
Speaker C:Authenticity is key because realistically, authenticity can take you a long way.
Speaker C:And I think authenticity and just, you know, having that creative, you know, essence to you, it will take you far.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It might take you longer, but you're gonna get to where you want to get to.
Speaker C:And that's the thing.
Speaker C:If it takes.
Speaker C:If it takes, you know, because we still work our jobs, like, we do this off the strength of the love, like just doing it, like to, you know, sit down with people, to have genuine conversations and let people see the other side that other people might not see or ex, you know, express some, you know, true raw feelings like fatherhood, these conversations that you don't necessarily see on a clip or sometimes, you know, not just the ass shaking that, you know, the.
Speaker B:All the.
Speaker C:That Just like boggles your mind.
Speaker B:And bro.
Speaker B:And bro, it's like to some people, they just see a couple views on an episode or something.
Speaker B:But they don't like, for me, like, bro, we get to see like comments or messages of people saying like, hey, keep it up.
Speaker B:Like you don't know, you might be, you might be changing someone's life.
Speaker B:Like seeing like that, like, it really does make you realize, like it doesn't matter how many people are paying attention.
Speaker B:If you love it and there's somebody paying attention, feed that person until turns to two and keep remember that.
Speaker C:Remember on even our first season of us, just, just us, us four guys just, you know, chopping it up, just, you know, us putting out a podcast.
Speaker C:I forgot what exactly what it was, but somebody had emailed, you remember?
Speaker B:Oh yeah, yeah, some kid had email.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was like, he was like autistic or something like that.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He emailed me this, like this.
Speaker B:It was like a news, like a news paper clipping or something.
Speaker B:And he had this, this well written, well thought out whole like topic and thought and granted, like the topic wasn't necessarily something we could have put a lot of thought into.
Speaker B:It was like very like, I forgot what it was.
Speaker B:It had to have been like scientific or historic or something.
Speaker B:Something that we wouldn't really.
Speaker B:But it was cool that this kid's like, hey, I've been watching your guys's stuff.
Speaker B:I think it's so cool.
Speaker B:I'm really interested in this and I just would love to hear you guys talk about it.
Speaker B:And it's like for us, like, we would, we would have loved to talk about it, you know, but we also were.
Speaker B:We broke at that time.
Speaker B:We didn't have any episodes going on.
Speaker B:We had stopped for our first season and we're going into our second season.
Speaker B:But even shit like that, it was just like, I'd rather get one of those every EP every season or something than.
Speaker B:Than get 10,000 people who like one video because it's happened.
Speaker B:We have gotten the 10,000 people to like a video and shit.
Speaker B:And how many of them follow you?
Speaker B:How many of those followers even pay attention to the next video or this?
Speaker B:That none of that shit matters, bro.
Speaker A:Bro, for sure.
Speaker B:Feed the people who are paying attention every week.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Just building that core audience and just building off of that.
Speaker A:And this is like I said, it takes time.
Speaker A:Like it might take a little longer if you guys aren't being so controversial.
Speaker A:But yeah, at the end of the day, like, if you guys are loving it and all this and that.
Speaker A:Like, it just becomes something that.
Speaker A:It becomes your baby, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Bro, should we.
Speaker C:Should we become more controversial?
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:I mean, it's not.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:It's not a bad thing, but it's just, like, a lot of people do chase that too much or that's all they want to do.
Speaker B:I think, like, like I said, I don't mind being controversial if it's authentic.
Speaker B:Like, we were talking about something that some people might view as controversial.
Speaker B:Somebody might hear like, you're too soft on your kids.
Speaker B:And they might think, like, I'm telling you to beat your kids.
Speaker B:That's all up to interpretation.
Speaker B:I'm not telling you to be your kids.
Speaker B:I'm telling you to stop being soft.
Speaker B:You know, not.
Speaker B:I'm not telling you nothing.
Speaker B:I'm just saying my perspective is that we're being too soft.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Or things of that nature.
Speaker A:Me too.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people, like.
Speaker A:Like, the people that really know me know, like, I like to speak my opinion.
Speaker A:Like, I really don't care if you like it or not.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:Sometimes people got to be authentic with each other.
Speaker A:Like, I'm going tell you how I feel about you or whatever situation, and you take it the way you want to take it.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, like, I'm not going to be fake.
Speaker A:Like, hey, bro, I'm about to go jump out the bridge.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker A:Go for it.
Speaker B:You know, and that's why a lot more people are going to respect you than somebody who just, you know, blows blows smoke and then, no, that dude's tripping.
Speaker B:Like, you know, that I. I'm this.
Speaker B:I would much rather some have somebody who's up.
Speaker B:Walked up to me and be like, he, hey, this.
Speaker B:This could use some work.
Speaker B:Or this.
Speaker B:You could improve this.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:I don't think that that's wrong.
Speaker B:I don't think that's bad at all.
Speaker B:But so many people think if you're not, I guess, liking exactly what they want you to, like, you're.
Speaker B:You're being rude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:This just depends on how you say it as well.
Speaker A:But a lot of times, like, I just feel like people are too fake nowadays.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I'd rather you tell me something like, hey, bro, like, you know, your videos are getting boring or your videos are getting repetitive or whatever cases, and I'm not gonna be mad about it.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, you probably are right.
Speaker A:Or I probably haven't noticed that you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, stuff like that where.
Speaker A:Yeah, like I said, people aren't being held accountable for whatever they feel like.
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:That's one big thing.
Speaker B:Like you said, I haven't noticed.
Speaker B:Like, some people tell me some, and.
Speaker B:And I'm like, damn, I didn't even notice that, like, thank you, like, type.
Speaker B:But if you, you know, I don't know, if you just blow smoke, you don't.
Speaker B:You don't do nothing for nobody type thing.
Speaker A:Like, even for me, it was like a long time, bro, where I just felt.
Speaker A:Felt comfortable.
Speaker A:That was probably my biggest up in my whole career, like, being comfortable.
Speaker A:I'm just like, you know, I'm popping right now.
Speaker A:Nobody's really with me.
Speaker A:After a while, it would just.
Speaker A:People start coming up.
Speaker A:People started doing this and that, and I just were so comfortable where I'm just like, I could be comfortable.
Speaker A:I'm fine.
Speaker A:But then it's just like, you're like, oh, okay, you know what?
Speaker A:I can't be comfortable.
Speaker A:I gotta, you know, it's like friendly competition.
Speaker A:No, it's like, it makes you get better as a person.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You can't see stuff like.
Speaker A:Like, oh, him, this and that.
Speaker A:Just, okay, cool.
Speaker A:You do it like this.
Speaker A:I could try to do it better or just step out of my comfort zone or just switch up, whatever you do, type.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's one thing.
Speaker B:And like you said, too, though, it's another big thing.
Speaker B:People got to realize anything can be said if you say it the right way.
Speaker B:You can communicate anything if you really care about it and want to communicate it.
Speaker B:But some people are just too afraid to, like, you know, find the right words or even just try to.
Speaker B:Try to.
Speaker B:Try to look at it from that perspective.
Speaker B:It's like, how should I communicate this?
Speaker B:They'd rather say like, hey, this, it's this way, or it's trash or nothing.
Speaker B:Rather than being like, no, I think you could have improved in this way or could have improved in the cadence or this, that.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because I. I see people do that all the time.
Speaker B:And me, you know, I'm not always the type that's gonna be like, yo, shit's trash.
Speaker B:I'll be like, oh, it's cool.
Speaker B:But I'll tell you, like, what I think could have been better.
Speaker B:Hey, I think this part could have been a little cooler.
Speaker B:But no, it's cool.
Speaker A:I don't know, bro.
Speaker A:Like I said this whole time, right, now people are just sitting sensitive, like, we ain't gonna say who, but the person we were talking about earlier.
Speaker A:It's just like, even though you weren't meant it, you didn't mean it that way, but it just like, they took it that way.
Speaker A:But I'm like, at the end of the day, like, it's the truth.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, come on, bro.
Speaker A:Like, we see the potential.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, all this and that where they just, bro, give us what we want.
Speaker B:And you're getting mad at me for something that, like, you.
Speaker B:You agree, and that's why you're getting mad.
Speaker B:It's because you understand that it's true.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And people say that all the time.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like the.
Speaker B:Your.
Speaker B:Your anger is like, the source of your anger is your own insecurity, in a sense, because you be like, believing what they're saying.
Speaker B:Like, you only care if someone calls you short.
Speaker B:If you believe you're short.
Speaker B:You only care if someone calls you fat.
Speaker B:If you believe you're fat.
Speaker B:If you're like.
Speaker B:Like, when some people tell me, I'll just be like, I brush it off because I. I don't believe that.
Speaker B:But then why, if he tells me, am I gonna believe it?
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, that's the thing is like, some people just got to realize, like, you.
Speaker B:You almost, like, you know, you almost get mad at what you end up believing.
Speaker B:And if you believe that nobody's ever gonna talk about you, then that's on you.
Speaker B:We're saying, you know, something else.
Speaker B:But mentality is everything, bro.
Speaker C:Mentality is everything.
Speaker C:I'll tell you that.
Speaker C:Having the right mentality will get you far.
Speaker B:And you.
Speaker C:You can kind of see when you have conversations with people who are, you know, mentally mature, you know, not necessarily, like, emotionally intelligent, like, mentally mature.
Speaker C:Like, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It's kind of a difference sometimes, bro.
Speaker B:One thing I'll say though, too, is you can.
Speaker B:You can tell why people do it for.
Speaker B:For different reasons too.
Speaker B:Like, just by talking to them, even on this.
Speaker B:In this situation.
Speaker B:Like, how you come is, like, you come very respectful and humble and just like, passionate about what you do, and you're willing to talk about things.
Speaker B:Some people come like, oh, no, yeah, bro, I was just at the studio with this.
Speaker B:All they want to talk about is other people.
Speaker B:In a sense, they're like, oh, what they're associated with this, that the other.
Speaker B:Or something.
Speaker B:It's like, I could tell what you do it for, bro.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You do it for, like, to be able to say, like, you was in the studio, humble or something, rather than being like, not.
Speaker B:Like, granted, that's a good piece of information if packaged well, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But some people, they tell you, and you can tell why they tell you it's not because they're trying to give a sneak peek of what's going on or something.
Speaker B:It's like, nah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, there was this one time I was in the studio with this guy, so the girl wanted.
Speaker B:The whole story is about the girl, but you had to say who you.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Saying, like.
Speaker B:And they're just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:Some people, I feel like just based off how they go about certain things, you could just be like, I see how you do it for.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:N. Yeah, like I said, I've been doing this for a while.
Speaker A:We're just kind of like, sometimes I don't even like talking about videos.
Speaker A:That's why I told y', all, like, I'd rather have a real conversation.
Speaker A:Like, we could talk about videos.
Speaker A:We could talk.
Speaker A:You know, I got a bunch of stories for you, but it's just a lot of times it's like, you know, my certain opinions or you guys, certain opinions might change each other's perspective.
Speaker A:And you're like, yeah, I said, you don't know who's listening.
Speaker A:Might change their perspective.
Speaker A:Like, maybe somebody want to shoot it, start shooting videos.
Speaker A:And based off what I say, they might not want to shoot videos no more.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, a lot.
Speaker A:A lot of that goes into it.
Speaker A:Like, it's a lot that goes around it.
Speaker B:No, definitely.
Speaker B:And I think that those are the dopest parts, though, because you think about.
Speaker B:We were talking about earlier, like, you talked about how you wanted to work with all these artists because of all these, like, the thoughts, the lore of, like, who they could be and like, that.
Speaker B:And so ultimately, like, I look at interviews and podcasts as that, like, like.
Speaker B:But I want to kind of get to know, like, the side of this person or.
Speaker B:Or get to know certain specs about this person that, like, I'm just interested in as a fan, not as a reporter.
Speaker B:Or, like, oh, what's your thoughts about this?
Speaker B:Or, hey, how was this project?
Speaker B:Or something.
Speaker B:It's like, bro, I want to understand what's driving this, or maybe inspirations behind certain things or this, that, the other, how your creative process goes.
Speaker B:Because so many people are caught up on, you know, the product of something, but not many people try to get behind, you know, the process.
Speaker C:It's also networking, too.
Speaker C:Networking as far as, like, networking with the right people can, you know, bring a lot of good, I would say, good conversation, good resources.
Speaker C:Just having those people as a resource could, you know, possibly put you in line with other people or set you further and stuff like that.
Speaker C:So that's why we have these conversations with people who we like.
Speaker C:Like, you know how he was saying, like, the lore, the people like, oh, like Stewie films and stuff like that, and now genuinely getting to meet you and, you know, talk with you and have a real dope conversation stuff.
Speaker C:It's like, you know, it's a whole entire different side.
Speaker C:And that's the whole entire different thing about podcasting.
Speaker C:It's like some people fail to realize it's like, dude, this person's a human.
Speaker C:Like, we touched on too, earlier.
Speaker C:Like, this is.
Speaker C:This is a real setting where you just have a dope conversation.
Speaker C:And obviously, we've been talking, you know, we've been talking and stuff.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, bro, it's dark outside.
Speaker A:Like, that's the thing.
Speaker A:Like I was telling you earlier, like, me personally, like, I never really like the.
Speaker A:The spotlight.
Speaker A:I don't like too much personal out there.
Speaker A:Just for certain reasons.
Speaker A:Like, it's not what I'm doing.
Speaker A:I'm not doing it for, like, yeah, I might have hella subscribers and hella followers, but that's not really what.
Speaker B:That's not what drives you.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, me personally, I rather you get to know me for who I am as a personal person.
Speaker A:Because a lot of people don't.
Speaker A:They just see me.
Speaker A:Oh, you should video.
Speaker A:How was it around being this person?
Speaker A:How was it around being this person?
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I mean, that's what people care about the most.
Speaker A:Most of the time.
Speaker B:You know what I mean exactly, is who.
Speaker B:How was.
Speaker B:How is this person?
Speaker B:Or like you said, when ultimately I want somebody leaving our platform with knowing a little bit more about you or knowing a little bit more about the guests, you're like, oh, like, I want to.
Speaker B:I would love to sit down.
Speaker B:Or if they.
Speaker B:You need to one day be able to talk to you or have a question in mind not coming at you.
Speaker B:Like, oh, yeah, so you worked with it.
Speaker B:Like, bro, like, everybody's gonna see that if they look at the credits.
Speaker B:You know, watch this video.
Speaker C:This, like I said, networking, bro.
Speaker C:Like, just seeing your true character and who you are.
Speaker C:Like, as a person who, you know, carries themselves well, humbly so it's just like, dude, it's like, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker C:Like, you already got.
Speaker C:You got people you, you know, have to work with and stuff like that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker C:You get a more influx of people like, damn, bro, this is, this Stu films, bro.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm going go tap in with them.
Speaker C:Like, you know, so that's like, you know, like we said, like, we appreciate you coming on and bro, it's been.
Speaker B:It'S been a dope time now.
Speaker A:Try.
Speaker B:No, I gotta hear though.
Speaker B:You said you got stories for us.
Speaker B:What would you say is either the best or craziest story you have encountered?
Speaker B:Wow, there's hella.
Speaker A:You gotta be a little bit more specific.
Speaker B:A little broad, huh?
Speaker B:All right, what's the.
Speaker B:I guess the.
Speaker C:You gotta get one crazy one.
Speaker B:Yeah, I want to know what the craziest experience, I guess.
Speaker B:What would you like?
Speaker B:What is the craziest experience?
Speaker B:Well, chasing your dream where you're like, I did not expect to be put in this situation.
Speaker A:There's a lot that goes on, but.
Speaker A:But I would say probably, like a lot of times where you.
Speaker A:You probably see those memes of how it is to be a cameraman and have hella guns.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a few videos where guns were actually let off on accident.
Speaker C:Bro, that's actually wild to think about.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It wasn't like directed at me, but some dude put a gun in his pocket.
Speaker A:Look, that's off.
Speaker A:At a college.
Speaker A:At a college.
Speaker A:We're shooting a video in the studio.
Speaker A:They let it run out for a few hours and the gun goes off.
Speaker A:Luckily, thank God it was soundproof.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:I didn't hear it from the outside, but yeah, we're in a college campus, load a gun went off another video.
Speaker A:I'm just out in West Oakland and shooting the video.
Speaker A:And a drive by goes on.
Speaker A:I'm just like.
Speaker A:And for some reason, it's just.
Speaker A:I don't react to it or panic about it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Just coming from Oakland, it's just kind of like, okay, gunshot is how I go to sleep at night.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, did it ever make you question, like, do I, do I want to do this though?
Speaker A:Like, I'm older and now that I got kids, like I said, like that put a big perspective on what.
Speaker A:What I do, you know, for.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, yeah, you got kids, bro.
Speaker A:My channel was really built off gang bangers.
Speaker A:Yeah, so just like I said, around that time, I was just so much.
Speaker A:I was around so much that could go bad so fast.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I really didn't give a.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But just like now it's just like I told you, like, I try to charge more to get away from all that, but, yeah, it still happens.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it still happens.
Speaker B:Yeah, you still be around it, but.
Speaker A:Still be around it, bro.
Speaker A:But bro, those were the best times for sure.
Speaker A:Like, everybody had money.
Speaker A:PPP loans is going crazy.
Speaker A:Like, everybody wanted to be a rapper.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, everybody.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know, money was just flowing so good.
Speaker A:Artists were.
Speaker B:Everybody had a feature from somebody that they paid too much for.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro, Like, I've seen so much, bro.
Speaker A:I can't wait to retire and just start my own podcast, bro.
Speaker B:You got to just story time.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:No, honestly, because, like, being in something like that, you get.
Speaker B:You get exposed to a lot of.
Speaker B:A lot of situations and a lot of stories.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And, yeah, we got to hear some more, for sure.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, my was built off, like, gang bangers, for sure.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I was put into definitely, like, situations where I don't gang bang, and I don't really give a about none of that, but sometimes.
Speaker A:This one time, I felt so set up and it was so crazy, but I went with it just because I want to go shoot this video for this one dude in Stockton.
Speaker A:Actually, we haven't even talked about that yet, but it was in Stockton.
Speaker A:Then I got a dm, like a key shoot tonight.
Speaker A:And I'm like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker A:While I'm shooting the video.
Speaker A:And then they're like, like, oh, it's in Stockton.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker A:I'm in Stockton.
Speaker A:They're like, cool, cool.
Speaker A:Send me a song, boo Boo.
Speaker A:Send me address.
Speaker A:I'll be done like an hour or two while the dude's doing whatever he does.
Speaker A:I hear the song and it's a diss about the guy I'm shooting for at the moment.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:And I'm like, damn, is this a setup or what?
Speaker A:And I'm like, send me a deposit right now.
Speaker A:He's okay, you got cash app or whatever?
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, send it.
Speaker A:Send me half of it.
Speaker A:I'm like, all right, he's serious.
Speaker A:But then my gut is telling me, don't do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, don't.
Speaker A:But then I'm like, you know, I'm saying, what that it, bro.
Speaker A:I stopped Shooting the video.
Speaker A:Boo Boo.
Speaker A:I go to.
Speaker A:The next spot is across town in Stockton.
Speaker A:I get there and I.
Speaker A:It just feels so sketchy, bro.
Speaker A:I don't know if y' all familiar with Stockton, but, yeah, they got town homes.
Speaker A:That's what it was.
Speaker A:Town homes.
Speaker A:Hella Crips.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:I parked the car and I'm like, I. Bro, I don't know what the heck going on.
Speaker A:It was like.
Speaker A:It was a function, bro.
Speaker A:It's probably like over 100 people.
Speaker A:I step out the car, somebody recognizes me, Stewie's here, bro.
Speaker A:I feel like a celebrity, bro.
Speaker A:And I was like, okay, that with me.
Speaker A:Hella people just come up.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, we with you.
Speaker A:We with you.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I feel like a little celebrity.
Speaker A:And I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker A:It's cool.
Speaker A:So we start shooting the video, and I'm just like, did you know I was shooting a video for bro right now?
Speaker A:He's just like, nah, we just want to shoot the video.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay.
Speaker A:I thought I was being said.
Speaker A:I was like, nah, bro, people with you out here ain't gonna set you up or nothing.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker B:That's the video.
Speaker A:And then, hella funny, the week after I dropped the video, and I go shoot a video for the other dude again.
Speaker A:And then he sees it.
Speaker A:I'm just, okay.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't really care.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's all work, bro.
Speaker A:It's all work.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:But a lot of times people do get like.
Speaker B:That's what I wanted to ask.
Speaker B:I wanted to ask because, you know, we've.
Speaker B:We talked to.
Speaker B:I think Celie was talking about it too, where it's like, you can't highlight certain things because people.
Speaker B:Politics so much out here in the sense.
Speaker B:And I wanted to ask you, have you been input into situations or.
Speaker B:How do you steer clear of situations like that, where obviously, you know, you just want to.
Speaker B:You just want to work, like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But majority of people do realize I'm just a cameraman.
Speaker A:Like, I'm from Oakland, everything.
Speaker A:But I don't really gang bang or pick size or whatever.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:There's been just a few times where people feel some type of way about me shooting with them, but I'm like, it comes with it.
Speaker A:You know, people just get on their feelings about it, like, oh, you want to.
Speaker A:Like, why would I be loyal to you as an artist this if you're not constantly only shooting with me?
Speaker A:Like, if I Only shoot with you if I'm your only cameraman and we have a real.
Speaker A:Like, you know, I might be like, you know what?
Speaker A:I don't think this feels right.
Speaker A:But the end of the day, like, we just cameraman, just business.
Speaker A:But a lot of people do try to put politics into a whole lot of.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, no, because I see.
Speaker B:I see that at, like, other podcasts, and they be talking about that, and I'm like, I hope we don't ever deal with it.
Speaker B:Because to me, I look at it like, I wouldn't even ask you about no baby or some that would, like, make it seem like I'm trying to incite anything or even do that.
Speaker B:If I'm talking to both sides, it's more of to highlight the area we're in.
Speaker B:Like, because we're Northern California regional area.
Speaker A:There'S a big amount of people that will take it that way.
Speaker A:For example, you guys are from Sacramento.
Speaker A:If you guys do end up doing a podcast with somebody from the Mozzie side or the lavish D side, like, some group of people are gonna feel something.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Believe it or not, even though you guys have nothing to do with it and y' all really don't give a.
Speaker A:But some people.
Speaker A:Oh, no, they had this person on there.
Speaker A:I'm not going on that podcast.
Speaker C:Like, stupid bro can up some.
Speaker A:Yeah, so it does.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:It for a lot of people.
Speaker A:It does for me.
Speaker A:It wasn't like, too big of a thing.
Speaker A:The only thing that I feel like would ever raise a lot of red flags is I do a lot of videos for, like, North Daniels and stuff.
Speaker A:So if I was to ever do a video for a Sereno or anything, like, I personally don't care.
Speaker A:I'll do it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, if the music's cool, whatever, like, I'll do it.
Speaker A:But I already know that's going cause hella controversy, bro.
Speaker A:Like, I got like, 300k subs, bro.
Speaker A:I would say, like, 150 is probably all North Daniel.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the thing is people have.
Speaker B:That's why I don't understand, I guess, cuz even look at it too.
Speaker B:I've asked some questions or talked to other people about it.
Speaker B:Like, hey, would it be bad if we had this, that.
Speaker B:And I'll be thinking about it.
Speaker B:Like, to me, it's like, bro, I don't even know, like, that.
Speaker B:That have to.
Speaker B:I don't know why people would expect, you know, people to understand that people have problems anyway.
Speaker B:It's like, not Everybody's your biggest fan and knows who you're beefing with.
Speaker B:But then at the same time, you got that where it's like, there are people, if they support you a lot, they're going to look at it like.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's just the environment that we're in, bro.
Speaker A:Just like, even though we might not care, there's a big group of people that feel like it is a big problem.
Speaker A:Like, recently I shot a video from certain.
Speaker A:From some North Daniel dude.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:If you book me, bro, I'm not gonna go to your profile and see your whole resume and see what's going on with your career life or whatever.
Speaker A:So I don't mind.
Speaker A:Nothing to it.
Speaker A:I go to the video.
Speaker A:He just hella cool.
Speaker A:Boo boo work with him before dropped the video the following week.
Speaker A:And I just get a hell of comments like, you're supposed to do your research.
Speaker A:He's a protective custody.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's snitching.
Speaker B:He's a dropout.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't give a.
Speaker A:Like, if you go to McDonald's right now, they're not gonna be like, you know, I mean, you're not gonna be, oh, he's a pedophile.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna serve you a Big Mac.
Speaker A:Like at the end of the day business.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:But it's how people don't realize certain people have the different standards.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Like I said, we were talking about the Internet.
Speaker A:Just people have that opinion and, and they're like, we're not with Stewie Films no more.
Speaker A:He shot for this.
Speaker A:I'm like, first of all, yeah, I was not the one booking me.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Just don't watch the video.
Speaker B:Like, you know, that's how I look at it.
Speaker B:Like, you don't.
Speaker B:Like the person.
Speaker B:Just don't watch the video.
Speaker B:Go on to next week.
Speaker A:Week.
Speaker B:They'll be the same person next week.
Speaker A:So at the end of the day, like I said, I really don't give a about that.
Speaker A:But it, it comes with it.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's part of it.
Speaker B:I feel that for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Some people, you know, it's.
Speaker B:I mean, everybody's different.
Speaker B:Everybody looks at it different.
Speaker B:The different perspectives and.
Speaker B:But it's like, like you said, you're.
Speaker B:You're providing a service, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And in other, other industries, like, even like this, it's like you're providing, you know, type of interview in a sense.
Speaker B:In a sense.
Speaker B:It's not like you're, you know, I'm not.
Speaker B:You're not marketing.
Speaker B:Yeah, you.
Speaker B:I guess you do, but it's like you're not marketing the guy for.
Speaker A:You're just.
Speaker B:You're trying to, you know, get to know the person.
Speaker A:And like, I tell people too, every time I post a video, I'm showing my work.
Speaker A:I'm not really trying to showcase the artists.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:A lot of people get burger.
Speaker A:Like, you don't post my video.
Speaker A:You don't like, bro, I'm promoting my work.
Speaker A:I'm not promoting your music.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker A:I shoot a lot of videos and I only post probably like 10 of my videos.
Speaker A:Like, I don't want to over saturate my page with every single person that shit shoot, because obviously a lot of them aren't that great.
Speaker A:But a lot of times it's like, I'm not here to promote your music.
Speaker A:I'm here to showcase my work.
Speaker A:So obviously I'mma post specific videos.
Speaker A:Only compared to, hey, bro, shot a video is netfront a liquor store.
Speaker A:Promote my.
Speaker A:Be like, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's the thing.
Speaker B:Some people don't get that, though.
Speaker B:No, for sure.
Speaker A:They see it as if I don't post their video, I'm the reason that didn't succeed in their career.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's wild, bro.
Speaker C:How you going to big on somebody else else to make you eat off of that?
Speaker B:Like, it.
Speaker B:No, no, for sure.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:That's the problem though, is people look at it as like they.
Speaker B:They purchase a certain service and they're thinking everything comes with it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everybody just has expectations that everybody is to.
Speaker B:To like, prioritize them or something.
Speaker B:When it's like, no, I started putting.
Speaker A:That in my invoices on the bottom, they'll say, I'm not obligated to post your video.
Speaker A:This and that.
Speaker A:I'm just providing these services.
Speaker A:And that way because there was a big period of time where people get so, so mad if I don't post your videos on my Instagram, bro.
Speaker B:Like, refer to the invoice.
Speaker A:I'm just like, bro, I'm not here to promote your music.
Speaker A:No, I'm not doing that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, and the platform that you've built, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's large.
Speaker B:But you didn't build it off of a.
Speaker B:Like a.
Speaker B:A news source or like something like that.
Speaker B:You're like, you said, it's you showcasing your work.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:For your craft, your artistry.
Speaker C:You're an artist in your Own lane.
Speaker A:Like, you know, there's a lot that comes with it, bro.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:Honestly, bro, I'm just ready to retire at this point.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:Okay, well, what is.
Speaker B:What is next for Stewie films?
Speaker B:Like, realistically.
Speaker A:So like we talked about before, like, when you do something when it's not about money is really just for the love of it.
Speaker A:And I feel like I drifted away so far from that where.
Speaker A:So when it comes to music videos, it goes two ways.
Speaker A:Either you could pay me X amount of money and I take care of everything and I bring the vision to life, or you could just pay me to pull up and shoot the video the way you want to.
Speaker A:So usually those are two ways the music video goes.
Speaker A:So a lot of times most people just want the way they want it instead of the way.
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm the director.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna tell you how to rap a song.
Speaker A:So if you're an artist, don't tell me how to shoot the video.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So that's a big problem that I've been having lately is people swear they're, hey, bro, walk through the door and sit down and take a sip of your water.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm a director, bro.
Speaker A:Like, no, bro, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So these last few years, like, it's just been feeling like I've been moving away from actually enjoying the craft and it's just more about just getting money.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's why now I'm just like.
Speaker A:I think I'm just trying to time to do something different.
Speaker A:I still want to film videos.
Speaker A:Do it for my own, like, personal liking, like content on myself.
Speaker A:Travel vlogs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I see outside, like, I don't even want to interview crackers.
Speaker A:Be like, how'd you get in this situation right here?
Speaker A:Like, you know, I mean, how can I help you out?
Speaker A:Like mental health?
Speaker A:Like, you know, like just stuff like that where it's just like, I don't care about the money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Creating something that I could look back at and enjoy.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, because a lot of people would be like, especially like family members, they'd be like, let me see your videos.
Speaker A:And I'd be like, low key, like, I want to show you my video.
Speaker A:Just hella ass shaking or hella guys with guns and hella weird shit going on where I'm just like, I don't know.
Speaker A:I just over time, it just doesn't feel like this is why I started shooting videos.
Speaker A:It's just now like, okay, well, I need to say, yes, these videos, I need some money.
Speaker B:And it sounds like, bro, it sounds like that's just growth, you know, it just.
Speaker B:You're in a different phase of life and it sounds like, you know, different things fuel you and.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:That's beautiful, bro, Being able to utilize your craft and your.
Speaker B:Your hobby to, I mean, not hobby your passion, but to also be able to do something that you feel like is more of a hobby in a sense, rather than feeling like I'm just clocking in, just gotta do it.
Speaker B:Because, you know, like, it's not like these people are giving you concepts and saying, like, hey, create a shot deck, like, bring this vision to life.
Speaker B:These guys are probably, like you said, they're just, oh, no, let's get a shot in the car.
Speaker B:We'll be driving.
Speaker B:That'd be sick.
Speaker B:You know, I think it's the first time you ever got a shot.
Speaker A:Like, it just gets repetitive, bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But it's like I said, I'm to the point in my career where I'm just like, I build a lot, and I build a lot where I could feel like I could walk away and be happy with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Compared to a lot of people where they feel like I still got a long way to go, you know, I can still grow a lot and I can still go way further if I just do.
Speaker A:But it just.
Speaker A:Just the end of the day, like, people don't talk about this a lot, but mental health is very important, especially in men.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, you know, if you hate your job or if you.
Speaker A:Something is not making you happy, like, work on it, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So for me being so busy, bro, I don't got enough time to even work out sometimes.
Speaker A:And being healthy and mentally healthy is very important in life, especially when you get older, bro.
Speaker A:Y haven't hit 30 yet, but once you hit 30, bro, your knees gonna be like popping bubble.
Speaker B:I think I'm.
Speaker C:Damn, they're starting to feel it right now.
Speaker B:No, I think, I think that's huge, like you said.
Speaker B:And I, I don't think oftentimes we come up to value a dollar amount or this is the salary we want to make or this.
Speaker B:We never come up to value work, life balance, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:And then getting into career, I hit pretty young, like a certain amount I wanted to at a certain age or whatever.
Speaker B:And then I was like, oh, Like, I looked at this wrong the whole time.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, now nowadays I value more like, I don't necessarily want to, I wanted to go to law school, do the whole thing, and I'm like, like, bro, 70 billable hours, 70 billable hours would cost 90 to 100 hours of work, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, what realistic, like work life balance does that come with?
Speaker B:And, and it's just like, once I started viewing that bro, I started moving way different.
Speaker B:Even professionally where it's like, yeah, now what I do, I'm just like, no, I like it, but it's something that, it's also sustainable.
Speaker B:It has work life balance.
Speaker B:And because like you said, sometimes we don't value that, that mental health.
Speaker A:That's the thing that I really value.
Speaker A:Like, especially lately, like I said, like the last few years, that's one thing I really want to focus on.
Speaker A:Because a lot of people, like I said, they, they want certain stuff.
Speaker A:Like, I know a lot of people see me and be like, I want to be like him one day, this and that, but they don't see the, that goes behind the scenes.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, bro, you never get a clock out.
Speaker A:Yeah, being self employed, running your own business, I never get a clock.
Speaker A:And I hate it.
Speaker A:Like, bro, there's times where I'm with my kids, I'm like, all right, what time are you going to sleep?
Speaker A:I gotta edit.
Speaker A:And I hate that mentality that I have sometimes, but it's just like, you can't turn that off.
Speaker A:Like, like real life.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So I'm just like, I hate that mentality.
Speaker A:Like sometimes I even be with my girl and I'm trying to watch a movie, I'm like, all right, go to sleep.
Speaker A:So I could go edit.
Speaker A:Like, I hate that.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So it gets to that point where like, bro, if I'm feeling this way is something that I gotta just kind of move away from, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I love filming, but if I can't clock out and be mentally okay and not be able to work on myself and be physically the way I want to and all this other stuff, then that's what I got to work on, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's like the thing that I'm like currently trying to transition to do something different.
Speaker A:So I could be able to clock in, clock out, and then figure out, okay, music videos.
Speaker A:No, what can I do now to be happy?
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:No, definitely, because that's, that's honestly like that's why I do this and I want to do this is because like it's a hobby, it's on my off time type thing.
Speaker B:I hope one day it'll make money type type.
Speaker B:But like it's for my mental health.
Speaker B:Realistically bro, if I just went to work nine to five and then came home and just did my responsibilities in this and I didn't have any sense of like creative outlet or any sense of like, you know, like also my outlet includes being able to hang out with friends.
Speaker B:So that's cool too, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But like, you know, that was big for me because I just after, you know, you go to school, you do all this stuff and you have sports, you have this busy schedule that you go to work and come home and go to work and come home and you, you have like to really as an adult figure out a routine, figure out what your life is going to look like and things like that.
Speaker B:And it was before this it was really tough for me to have like an outlet type thing and I really, I really enjoyed, you know, it.
Speaker B:But I also could see exactly what you're saying where if this became the nine to five too and we're just having to interview whoever's coming into town this week and this, that the other, it would be a whole different perspective.
Speaker B:So you have to realize like, you know, like you said, it's, it's a double sided sword.
Speaker B:Like what you're praying for could also.
Speaker A:Be like, you know, that's what I'm saying telling.
Speaker A:Like a lot of people see like certain stuff, but they don't see what it goes behind the scenes, how much work you got to put in.
Speaker A:Like you might see in the podcast that okay, it took off but you don't see how much.
Speaker A:You probably had to sell your car to buy a camera.
Speaker A:Yeah, I had to sacrifice this to get this and that.
Speaker A:That's the thing a lot of people don't see, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So like I said, it comes with me too where just like before kids I didn't give a.
Speaker A:Like I could be editing all night, waking up hella early, just just being mentally health and you know, just fat slob, not give a.
Speaker A:But like I said, once you have way more responsibilities.
Speaker A:You have humans you got to take care of.
Speaker A:Yeah, your perspective changes on everything.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like I can't.
Speaker A:Like I said, I hate the fact sometimes I play with my kids and I'm like, I gotta get to work.
Speaker A:I Can't do this and that.
Speaker A:So that's why I'm just like, nah, this ain't cool.
Speaker A:Like I said, I want to be part of my kids life.
Speaker A:I want to put them in sports.
Speaker A:I want to be able to do all the things that I wasn't able to do.
Speaker A:And like everyone says you get to relive your childhood through your kids.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, when I took my kids to Disneyland, that was my first time ever.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So it just like, it's my first time too, bro.
Speaker B:And that was probably like a dope experience for real.
Speaker B:Like, to just see the, the joy and excitement on their faces.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker A:It's just kind of like once you start getting to those points, you start realizing like, damn, bro, like, all right, I got to change my life up or I got to, you know, do this.
Speaker B:You have so much more to live for, bro.
Speaker A:So much more, bro.
Speaker B:You have, you have a.
Speaker B:A wedding you want to attend, one in 30 years, in the future, 20 years, or you have this, you know, just so much more in your mind.
Speaker B:Whereas when you're caught up in the grind, like, sometimes you're just like, oh, it's sustainable.
Speaker B:I can do it right now.
Speaker B:I'm getting to where I want to go.
Speaker B:But you don't realize, like, in the moment, you're not.
Speaker B:You're not balanced, you're not evenly spread.
Speaker B:You're kind of 100, spreading yourself in.
Speaker A:Because like I said, you know your goal.
Speaker A:You know what, sometimes you.
Speaker A:Where you got to go and what it's going to take.
Speaker A:But it comes with a lot of sacrifice too, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, especially like I said, like before, when I was, before kids, I was grinding every day, bro.
Speaker A:Like, I'll say yes to everybody just because I wanted X amount of money or I wanted to buy a car, I wanted to buy this and that.
Speaker A:So with that comes you missing out on a whole lot of parties, whole lot of family stuff just because you're.
Speaker A:You're on the grind, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And now people say, when you're successful, who you gonna celebrate it with?
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So exactly.
Speaker A:You're brushing everybody off, but you kind of realize, you know what, you value being with your friends more than shooting 10 podcasts where you don't get to see your family or.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's just a balance, bro.
Speaker A:Like, that's the thing that I'm telling you, like, right Now I'm in.
Speaker A:I'm an UN stage where I'm just like, bro, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:I rather enjoy life, bro.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like I build a lot where I could kick back and.
Speaker A:And just enjoy myself.
Speaker B:Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Speaker A:Sometimes you really just got to sit back, bro.
Speaker A:Like, damn, bro, we're really out here, bro.
Speaker A:This debate right here.
Speaker A:You know, we chill.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, a lot of times people don't see that.
Speaker A:They just.
Speaker A:All right, come on, Boo Boo.
Speaker A:We going to wrap it up.
Speaker A:Up next guest is coming.
Speaker A:Or, you know, I mean, sometimes you gotta sit back, soak it.
Speaker A:Damn, bro.
Speaker B:Like, I really got to do.
Speaker B:Yeah, like, I get to.
Speaker B:That's another thing we try to talk, to talk about a lot and remind ourselves is not that we had to, but we get to.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:We didn't have to shoot today, but we, you know, we got to shoot another episode.
Speaker B:And like you said earlier, gratefulness is like, I don't know, one thing you can't teach people, but you got to have it if you want to be able to maneuver through life, you know, enroll with the punches.
Speaker B:You got to be grateful for just everything you're able to.
Speaker A:To do.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that's why, like, me too, like, doing everything that I did.
Speaker A:Like, I don't like gatekeeping.
Speaker A:If you ask me any questions about anything, I'll tell you.
Speaker A:Like, I already know how difficult it is where you're trying to find a simple answer and why the Is my microphone hissing and then you've busting your ass off trying to figure it out and the smallest thing ever.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So I like to give back.
Speaker A:Like I said, like, giving back.
Speaker A:And I feel like that's a big reason why I'm blessed.
Speaker A:Like, being able to help others be grateful, be positive.
Speaker A:Like, you know, the whole mentality, if you think a certain way, bro, like, it'll change your life, you know?
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:And that's one thing I've noticed talking to a lot of.
Speaker B:A lot of the guests and people I look at as very successful and, like, in, like, you know.
Speaker B:I don't know how to say it.
Speaker B:Not rich in, like, money terms, but rich in, like, in their work also.
Speaker B:Like, when talking to them, they tend to, like, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker B:They tend to be rich in all other aspects where they're rich in family and they're thinking, like I said, the people that we've talked to that have done the most Tend to be the most down to ear earth, the most willing to help the most, this, that, the other.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:And you see why people make it, you know, and that's why we just, we want to be authentic because we, we see it, bro.
Speaker B:Like yeah, people just being themselves and you know, valuing hard working people and just being able to look at somebody and be like, not look at numbers or this or that, but be able to see a product or see, you know, oh, this, this, hey, how, what questions you might have or hey, you know, even us, the other way around type.
Speaker B:But it's like I've noticed that the people who, who got the most out of life gave a lot into life, you know, And I think karma is a real thing and I think 100.
Speaker B:I think people sleep on that.
Speaker B:They don't realize that, you know, you helping that next generation or that next person is actually gonna boost you as well, you know, and if they succeed, you succeed.
Speaker B:It's not like.
Speaker B:I don't know why grind culture has became so, yeah, competitive in a sense because you know, like even like you said, sometimes this is to our detriment anyway.
Speaker B:Yeah, go touch grass.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Even just like little simple things you value, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Because like for example, like this.
Speaker A:So when I was really ready to buy a house and stuff, right?
Speaker A:And the bay is super expensive.
Speaker A:It's expensive for a certain reason, right?
Speaker A:So you know, like the farther you go out, the cheaper and nicer the houses are.
Speaker A:So to me, I was like, you know, I started looking deeper, deeper.
Speaker A:And once I got to the Valley, I like, oh, I could get a good, good amount of money.
Speaker A:Money for a good nice house, for X amount of money.
Speaker A:So I bought a house.
Speaker A:It's super nice.
Speaker A:It's like four, three years old, brand new house type, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And I was like, cool, this and that.
Speaker A:But after a while you're like, bro, like I'm just on the road, bro, like wasting so I could do so much like if I wasn't in this car, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So I'm just like, nah, it's time to move back, bro.
Speaker A:And it's like having my.
Speaker A:I had nobody watch my kids out there.
Speaker A:So I have to come all the way out here, drop them off and go to work, pick them up and go all the way back home, bro.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, what about.
Speaker B:And you're so far away from probably family and that you want as well.
Speaker A:So now like I move back.
Speaker A:It's a smaller house.
Speaker A:It's a lot older.
Speaker A:But I'm just like, you know what?
Speaker A:The value of life is a lot better.
Speaker A:You know, Go outside, see my family, see my friends if I want to.
Speaker A:Biggest thing was the food, too.
Speaker C:Like, they got no good spots out there.
Speaker B:Get out there, bro.
Speaker A:So just coming out here, like I said, you, you know, yeah, the houses is cool and everything, but at the end of the day, like, the value of your life and what you're able to do with the time that you do have is more valuable than materialistic things, you know what I mean?
