Aaron Le: The Rise of Sactown's Own!
Season 2 kicks off with Sacramento’s rising star, Aaron Le. From humble beginnings to “Sactown” going viral, Aaron shares the real story behind the music, the mindset, and the movement.
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🔹 His 10-year grind in the Sacramento music scene
🔹 DIY engineering & making music from his bedroom
🔹 The smart marketing moves that helped him connect with the city
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Unquestionable The Podcast S2E1 – Aaron Le: The Rise of Sactown's Own!
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Creative process. We just sat down, me and Eddie in my room, just writing. And then the song is inspired by Southside by Lloyd.
So we took the melody and switched Southside to Sactown, and it just fit perfectly.
Speaker B:And you did all your own engineering for that and everything?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:In your room?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the people that don't know you do your own engineering sometimes too, right?
Speaker A:Anybody can do it. You know what I mean? You don't need all the fancy gear and all that extra stuff.
You just got to make it sound dope and make it work, you know, with what you got.
Speaker B:Well, today we got a special episode. You know, we got one of the up and coming artists in Sacramento, the one and only Aaron Le. How you doing, brother?
Speaker A:I'm doing good, brother. Man, thank you for having me here.
Speaker B:Yeah, thank you for coming, bro. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker A:Thank you, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah. How you doing, bro? It's been a while.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's been a while, bro, but I've been good. I've been blessed, you know, very grateful.
Speaker B:Nice to hear.
Speaker A:How are you doing?
Speaker B:Hey. I'm hanging in there. You know, we're just trying to get this off the ground kind of, man.
Speaker A:You already got it off the ground. That's what we do. We're doing it.
Speaker B:We're trying.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I'm getting excited for season two and get to show people more, you know, the people we with. Including yourself, bro.
Speaker A:Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Speaker B:So you're coming off of a, you know, a big run right now with your. With your hit single viral Sack Town. How you feeling, bro?
Speaker A:I feel good.
Speaker B:It's been years in the making.
Speaker A:Years. 10 years in the making. Yeah. So it's been a long time coming, for sure.
But it's a crazy thing because to a lot of people, they think it's a overnight success, you know, but they don't see the groundwork and everything that it took to get here. But the work's gonna still continue. We're gonna still keep going. Like I said, it's only in the beginning, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:That's dope. For the people who. Who don't know Aaron Lee, what is the first thing you want somebody to know about you, about the artist Aaron Lee?
Speaker A:What do I want them to know about me?
Speaker B:Yeah. For the. For somebody who's, you know, this is the first time coming across you. What would you like them to know about Aaron Lee?
Speaker A:That's a good question. Yeah. I really do this. Yeah. And you know, that just. I just want to motivate People and have them realize, like, hey, I could do it too.
That's what I want them to know that, like, if I could do it, you could do it.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah. That's what it's about, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's just motivating and prospering people to believe in, you know, anything's possible, you know.
Speaker A:Right. Yeah.
Speaker C:We're all normal people, but we all got a chance and all that.
Speaker A:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker D:You got a lot of people out in sec, you know, some people making noise, some, you know, you got the actual people, like, you know, progressing and stuff. So it's like you're like, you know, a. Like, you know, walking monument almost in sec.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:You know, and when you keep getting up there, you want to keep getting up, so.
Speaker A:Right. Yeah. And. And once you get up there, then that's when you pull everybody back, you know, up with you.
Yeah, that's what it's about, you know, like, we go back 10 years, right? So.
Speaker B:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A:So to see us go on our own paths and then reconnect and we doing something like, that's outside the norm, you know, Trying to make nothing into something. It's a beautiful thing, you know?
Speaker B:Definitely. Definitely. And like, he said. He said monument.
So I wanted to point out something I noticed, you know, I noticed, you know, your clips on Instagram, clips on Tick Tock.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:One of the smartest, you know, marketing rollouts I've seen in sack in a while, where you hitting every monument and doing, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Your song at every monument, and you're attaching that Sacktown song to everything that is Sacktown, you know. What made you think of that, man?
Speaker A:That. Yeah. So realistically, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't think it was gonna go viral like that, to be honest.
So, of course the song is, you know, I say sack towns about sack town, Sacramento, love. So the day that I wanted to shoot promo, I had my little sister come with me to the Capitol, and literally, we drove 30 minutes to the Capitol.
Took, like, five minutes to shoot it left. And then I was. I'm gonna just post it on Instagram just to promote the song. I wasn't even trying to drop the song.
I just wanted to promote it just to show people, like, hey, I got.
Speaker C:Some stuff just shot, like, a real.
Speaker A:Yeah, I just wanted to shoot a real. Just to promote the song. I wasn't. I didn't have any plans on dropping it.
Speaker C:So no music video was even done yet?
Speaker A:Nah, it's still not done yet. We got so much ideas and stuff.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker A:But. But it went viral, so I was like, oh, shit. Like, okay.
And then one of my boys, he's really good with Instagram and the algorithm, so he's like, you know what? We got to take this to other places around Sacramento. A lot of, like you said, monumental places. A lot of staples. So then we hit the Tower Bridge.
And then we hit. So we did the capital. We did the Tower Bridge.
Speaker B:So you guys at doco?
Speaker A:We had doco. Yep. Yep, we're at doco. And then from there, we were able to work with local businesses. Oh, that's cool. Just to show Sacramento. But yeah, so it was.
It was really his idea to do it. I did it on accident, really. So I just knew Sacramento, the capital, it's gonna. It's gonna be cool. I didn't think it was gonna blow up, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then from there, my boys, like, you didn't know what you did, but let's capitalize on it. And then we did it again and again, just doing minor tweaks to each video, and the numbers just kept growing and growing. So it's been pretty crazy.
Speaker B:And that's like, great organic growth, because like you said, you didn't even mean to. You just stumbled up, just resonated with not only yourself and the people around you, but also the masses in a sense. You know where.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Anybody could listen to that song and be like, nah, I could put myself in those shoes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For a moment. You know what I'm saying? And that's tough. It's hard to write a song like that, you know?
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:And to piggyback on that, like, can you take us in to, like, you know, the creative process behind that song? Who's all involved?
Speaker A:Yeah, so that's. That song was produced by my boy Megatron. He lives out in Houston. Oh, no.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker A:Excuse me. Somewhere in Texas. I don't. I don't remember what city, but he lives in Texas, and that's my boy.
And the song was actually written three years ago, so I had it in the vault for a minute. I had it for a minute. And I was. I recorded at the crib with one of my songwriters, my brother Eddie. Shout out to Eddie.
He helped me write the song, and we just had that recorded. It laid it down at the crib. We did it in a couple hours, I think. And then sends it out to Louis Valentino to master the song.
But the song wasn't even master until it went viral. And then we're like, it. We Got to get it going. So the creative process.
We just sat down, me and Eddie in my room, just writing, and then the song is inspired by Southside by Lloyd. So we took the. The melody and switched Southside to Sacktown, and it just fit perfectly. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't even intentional.
It just happened that way. Because the song. I mean, the beat has no sample of Southside.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker E:You just kind of heard it when you were listening to the video.
Speaker A:Yeah. We're like, this is gonna flow perfectly.
Speaker E:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And it did.
Speaker B:No, that's. That's what. Who would have thought two, three years ago, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah. Three years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is that the. Is that the original? You didn't, like, go back and redo anything like. That's the original.
Speaker A:That's the original, Yeah. I didn't add nothing to it, so. So whatever we had three years ago, we just sent it to Louis Valentino. He mixed it down, made it sound crispy.
That was it.
Speaker B:That's clutch. And you. You did all your own engineering for that and everything?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:In your room?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, so the people that don't know you, you do your own engineering sometimes, too, right? That's lit.
Speaker A:Yeah. That's why I say it's really. Anybody can do it. You know what I mean? You don't need all the fancy gear and all that extra stuff.
You just got to make it sound dope and make it work.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, with what you got, you.
Speaker C:Got to have that ear for it.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:You can make it work, you know, with. With whatever. You know, with whatever you're doing.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because like. Like I said, we're making nothing into something, so you got to be delusional enough to believe in it and, like.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? And like you said, everybody got their own ear. But, like, what is the real ear? You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What is the real vision? You know, as long as you have the vision, you got it.
Speaker B:Yeah. What is the ear when. When you feel it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You hear it. You feel it, too.
Speaker A:Yeah. You know, that's really what it is.
Speaker B:No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker A:Frequency.
Speaker B:You know, we're speaking about that Sack town, you know that it's a. Right now a local phenomenon, but it's taking you, you know, to the biggest stages. You just.
You just announced not too long ago, you're gonna be at rolling loud.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:You know, by the Time this comes out, you probably would have already performed, but talk to us about that. Walk us through, like, how you're feeling. That has to be surreal, man. Yeah.
Speaker A:For real. It's crazy. It is, honestly, so crazy. And to be on the bill with Eric Bellinger.
Speaker B:Yeah. One of my biggest inspirations back in the day, like we used to talk about. Yeah. Like 10 years ago type thing.
Speaker A:Yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah. Till this day, I mean, that's still an inspiration, you know? So. So it's definitely surreal.
A big blessing for sure, but big shout out to DJ 5 Venoms for getting me on the bill as well as Pack Bros, you know? Pack Bros. Yeah, yeah, the. The We Company. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah. So they got a sub label called Shippers department, which is like the record label, so I'm gonna be rocking with them that weekend.
Pack bros and dj5 venoms. Yeah.
Speaker B:So. So what can. What can the people expect to see? Obviously, again, this will probably come out after, but what do we got planned for the.
For the Rolling Loud weekend?
Speaker A:Well, so the whole weekend is going to be packed. So I fly into LA on Thursday.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then we got a writers camp and studio session. And then I think Friday we're doing a club appearance show.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:On.
Speaker A:And then Saturday and Sunday is the event, but we perform on Sunday, so I think Saturday we're just going to be going there, networking, just kind of checking it out, feeling it out.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't really know what to expect. I've never been backstage, you know what I mean? So, like, I'm just going with the flow.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, yeah, that's gonna be cool, though, dude. You're gonna be seeing everybody too, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, yeah, have all access. You're gonna be seeing, you know, your peers now, you know what I'm saying?
That's lit to say that, like, you're gonna be at a festival and there'll be peers around to network, like you said.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Get some tracks in.
Speaker C:And with that being those connections, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah. For real. I'm gonna try not to fanboy too.
Speaker B:Much, you know, with that being said, is there anybody that you're looking forward to trying to get, you know, trying to work with, or is there anybody, you know, you've just been like, man, I need a song with this guy, man.
Speaker A:I don't know. And I'm just trying to stay focused on what I got to do, you know what I mean? And then from there, and then I'm like, all right, right, Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker E:That's how the most organic collaborations happen, bro.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker E:The most people that you are put in the right room and you. And you guys just make some good together.
Speaker A:All right. Yeah. So. So we're gonna see what's up at the writing camp. Whoever's gonna show up.
Speaker B:Oh, that'll be later.
Speaker A:And then hopefully if I. I'm gonna do a good job. I was gonna say if I do, but I'm gonna do a good job. I'm gonna do a great job.
And then from there, hopefully people will be like, who's you? You know, tap in. Like I said, organic.
Speaker D:So what day are you on? What day are you performing on Sunday?
Speaker A:I think this. So Thursdays, 13, 14, 15, 6, the 16th.
Speaker D:Nice.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:You know your time already too?
Speaker A:I don't know what time I go on. No, I just know I got five minutes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah. So I'm gonna do a R B song and then I'm gonna bring out Beta Weeda and we're gonna do a song together.
Speaker B:Okay, that's hard.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker D:It's gonna be the biggest. The biggest stage so far, huh?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's far. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yesterday I did the national anthem at the Sack Republic game, so that was 11, 000 people.
Speaker B:Congrats. We saw that. Yeah, that was so major.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, major. That was a big crowd thus far. But then, yeah, once this come out and we do roll and allow you that, I think that's gonna be the biggest crowd.
Speaker B:Kings, where you at? We need you to tap in with Aaron Lee. We need Aaron Lee to be sing times.
Speaker C:You got one anthem down, he can do another one right now.
Speaker B:Say that. Say that. But you spoke about Beo. I've seen, you know, you've. You've worked with the likes of Bea, Mr. Fab, keep the sneak.
What's it like being able to work with some of, you know, the legends of. Of our region and. And, you know, people we listened to growing up?
Speaker A:Right. It's an honor, realistically, that's all I can really say. It's an honor to be there and to have them, like, believe in me too. It's like, wow, that's.
That's crazy, you know, because like you said, we grew up listening to them and to be amongst them, working with them, and it's just an honor. It's just an honor. You know, I. I come to them humbly and just like, what. What can I learn from you? You know?
Yeah, like, you know, I'm just here to be a Sponge. And. And. And just put on the record what is needed.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Student first, always. Right?
Speaker A:What was that?
Speaker B:Student first, always, always, always.
Speaker A:Forever learning, you know? Forever learning. You got to stay humble for sure. Because once you have that ego, it's going to you. You know what I mean?
And speaking from experience, you know what I mean? It's easy doing this, you know, and having a big ego, you know, but it's good to check yourself for sure. And. And like you said, remain a student.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Keep yourself, you know, keep yourself grounded in a sense.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Throughout the whole process.
Speaker A:Yeah, man. Because people getting lost in the sauce. Oh. Easily.
Speaker B:It's so easy to. You know, it's been a dream your whole life.
You finally get to the point where, you know, you're working with companies, you're making some money off your dream, and to some people, like you said, they get that takes a hold of them and they're like, you can't tell them nothing no more, you know?
Speaker A:Right. Yeah.
Speaker B:That success was enough. But, you know, for others, you know, there's always a next level. Always, you know, Always.
Speaker A:Yeah. And. And honestly, I think you got to remember as easily as you got it, it could be easily stripped away from you. So, like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, you got to just be grateful for everything.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker E:So, yeah, yeah, like I said, it's a humbling experience. You got to take a step back sometimes and be like, this is real. This is really happening type.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:You can't let it just get to your head.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah. For real. So, yeah.
Speaker B:So with.
With you dealing with, you know, this influx of so much attention right now and having, you know, everybody's attention here regionally right now and locally, what are the steps forward? What's next? What can we, you know, be on the lookout for? Aaron Lee, you know, is there going to be a music video for Sag Town?
Is there going to be a remix? Do we have a project?
Speaker A:Yeah, I really do want to do a video, but I'm just, like, so busy and then just. It's just a lot to plan out and, and, and make sure that we do it right, you know, but, yeah, I. I definitely hope there's a video in the future.
I definitely want to plan it out. A lot of people have been hitting me up for, like. Like, you need cars.
Speaker C:We got that.
Speaker A:You know, any location, we got. I got everything. It's just making that time to really sit down and plan it and do it right.
Speaker C:You have the vision yet or you just kind of haven't Even had that time.
Speaker A:Yeah, I had the vision. I mean, pretty simple. I mean. Yeah, I'll say it. So I have.
So really what we would really need to shoot is like, a car scene, me and a shorty driving around Sacramento. Right. So one car scene, and then maybe do, like, a performance shot. On top of this rooftop is the Renaissance Tower.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:One of, like, this. I think it's the second biggest skyscraper in Sacramento. But they hit me up and they gave me access to the helipad.
Speaker C:Oh, there you go.
Speaker A:Yeah, I would love to shoot. I mean, we are gonna shoot them out there either when the beam's lit. Right. But that's hard to time, right? Yeah, it's so hard to time. But then.
So a hella pass shot overseeing the city performance shot and then driving around the city.
And then I want to put in a lot of BTs that we captured from it being on the news, all the people that we worked with, you know, I mean, just to show, like, the. The growth of it. So. So we have a lot of stuff already that we just need to throw in. It's just those extra shots.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's in the works, then?
Speaker A:It's in the works, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker C:Yeah, it sounds dope already. I'm pumped for it.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it sounds like city, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker B:That's the beauty of. Of that. You know what I'm saying? And the song is in general.
Speaker A:Thank you, brother. Yeah, that's what we want to do. I got to do it right, though, you know? I mean, you gotta do it. I know.
Speaker C:For sure. Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And Sacktown, they have such a cold fan base right now going on. Like, it's. They such a big lover for Zach right now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:I love reaching out to you too. Like, just saying, what do you need? Like, let me know. We want to be a part of the song.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love it, bro. I'm very grateful. Yeah. And that's what it's about. You like.
Like we said, giving back to the city, you know, so as many people we can get involved into it. Let's do it. Let's run it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But as far as the music video, I mean, just do more. More projects. I got a song coming out in April that I'm gonna drop, but I got two other songs coming out this month, Beat a Weeden featuring me.
It's called Nasty, that's gonna come out. And then my boy saying from Seattle, he has a song featuring me and the Russell coming out. So that's gonna come out and.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's cool. See, that's what we're talking about with, like, these type of artists that we. With tough, right? We're fans of and they' too, right, bro?
Yeah, that's. That's cool, man. That's. That's super cool.
Speaker A:Thank you. Yeah, so just a lot. Just more work, you know what I mean? Keep the head down, keep working and. And do it again and again and again. Really.
Speaker B:And again.
Speaker D:Stuff like a new. A new project coming out. Like a comprise, like. Like, you know, put together project.
Speaker A:Yeah. I'm hoping by May. By May I could have a project out.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker A:In March right now, so I got about two months to get it done. Yeah. Got so much stuff in the vault.
But I'm like, I was just talking to Louis Valentino and he was giving me advice yesterday, and he was just saying, like, you know, you got a good spotlight right now. You got good heat. You don't want to just put too many throwaways on the project. Like, you really want to be intentional with what you put out now.
So I got to go back to the drawing board because I got songs all day. But, yeah. You know what I mean? But I. It was sucked for them to be like, all right, so that sounds dope.
And then they checking out the Cale Wonder type. But.
Speaker C:But when it comes to your song sitting in the vault, do you ever just, like, just drop them for the fun of it, you know? Do you ever. You know, artists, they just got that. They got their SoundCloud page and then they got their Strictly YouTube songs, you know?
I mean, you ever. You have that type of.
Speaker A:No, no, no. Just because I think a lot of it is just being a perfectionist kind of like, man, the song ain't ready yet. The song ain't ready yet. You know?
You know how it is.
Speaker B:No, it's the vulnerability of art.
Speaker A:We had a song called Too Bad. I love that record. It never came out because he was like, it ain't right.
Speaker B:Yeah. I'm like, he loved.
Speaker E:He always be like, just drive it.
Speaker B:There's something about it.
Speaker C:I don't like it.
Speaker E:Every time we go back in the city, he's working on it. Still not. It's still not it.
Speaker B:Yeah, right, right.
Speaker C:Sometimes that overthinking, too, it just does it, you know, because it's like, yeah, when it was. And then you tweak it out somewhere, and then it's like, oh, no, now you lost it, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, right, right In Your head.
Speaker E:But I mean, being a perfectionist is like that. Being an artist is like that.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Just like your own biggest critic.
Speaker A:For sure. For sure. 100. Yeah. So because of that, you know, I never really dropped anything, but, like, just. Just out the vault. But for sure.
I mean, I think I should, though, because my boy was telling. He sent me this. This, like, a quote that Snoop posted. It just says, just drop. Just work and drop it.
Work on the next thing, next thing, you know, don't hold on to it for too long. And, like, we never know. Like, something to us that might not be perfect yet or done, people might love, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, no, true that. You know, to someone. Like I said to someone that. That catches their ear. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, from what I just heard, you were holding on to a song for three years that was unmixed and unmastered. Hey, I might. I might try it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I might go to the next one in the vault right now, just.
Speaker B:Listening, you know, because you never know what you got and.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And we talk, like, we talk about, you know, there's that vulnerability of being an artist that holds you back because, you know, there's that idea of your idea, but then there's a whole. It's a whole different idea once you're putting it to practice and actually bring it down. And sometimes that's where you get lost.
And that perfectionism of, like, oh, it was different in my head. Like. And then you can't get it exactly how you want it, so it holds you back. And sometimes how you want it might not be how they need it.
You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you never know.
Speaker A:No, that's facts, but.
Speaker B:No, that's what I'm saying. If you got. If you. That one was in the vault, what else you got in the vault?
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll play some stuff for you guys afterwards. Yeah, let me know. I got you guys.
Speaker C:He's sure he's got some. We're just like, hey, bro, that has been dropped already.
Speaker A:Right? And that's the cold part, too. It's like, some of these records are so old.
I'm like, man, like, this would have went crazy back then if we did just drop it. Because now, like, the sound is so different, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, there's that part, too. The sound does change quick.
Speaker A:It does always.
Speaker B:And sometimes what you did, you know, a couple years ago will resonate today. But sometimes, like you said, it's just. It's a. It's a great song, but it's almost like. Like. Oh, it sounds like a few years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It becomes like that. Like, damn. Oh. Maybe let me reuse this verse somewhere else.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Never comes. It's never as good the second time as it was the first time.
Speaker A:Facts. Yeah, that's. That's my thing. Whenever I record a song, I. I don't like to. Once I'm done with it, like, okay, this is it, then.
I don't like to touch it or redo verses or hooks or stuff.
Speaker E:Like, you never want to go backwards.
Speaker A:I never do. Because what you capture that time is the energy that you capture that time. You can't. You can't sort of mimic it. Yeah, that's just what it was.
That's what it is.
Speaker B:Yeah. Two weeks later, you try to match that tone in yours.
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker C:Like that.
Speaker B:No more.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For real. It's just that vibe in the studio that one day. No, for sure. I did.
Speaker D:Hey, I did. Wanted to ask, how was it, like, how was it working with, like, Mr. Fab and, like, all them? Because you are. You are on their.
On one of their albums, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm on his album.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:I forgot what it was called. Something in Tacos.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I'm on. I'm on his album. I'm on the hook. And it was crazy working with him.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was. I was nervous. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, man, I hope I don't up, you know, but I got the job done. And.
And it's crazy to just, like, really soak in a lot of game from him, you know what I mean? Being a fly on the wall, like, the way he is on Instagram, just speaking knowledge and wisdom and just. That's just how he is.
Yeah, that's just how he is. Like, people be like, oh, he'd be preaching, but that's just really how he just talks, you know what I mean?
Speaker D:What was the energy like in the room, like, while you were, like, in there?
Speaker A:Realistically? Me, I was just sitting there, like, quiet.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I had a bottle of Cleco, though, so I'm just sitting there. I thought he wanted something. He didn't want to drink, but he. He's crazy, bro. He. He writes in the air. Like, he'll.
He'll play the beat, and he was like, just rap out loud, going over the same lines over and over. And then he's like, all right, I'm ready. Go in. Just lay it down like that. I'm like, damn, how you memorize that.
Speaker E:How you remember what you just said?
Speaker A:Yeah, like liter. But you know, repetition. He's been, he's a legend, you know, for so long. Oh yeah, so.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, imagine, imagine you're, you know, I mean, I don't know his age, but I'd assume like somewhere in his 40s, 50s or something. And you're still making money off of music and things, right?
You, you have something that like, you know, it's hard to replicate just because of the, like you said, repetition, the experience, just being able to know yourself and your sound and kind of how you prefer to come off on things. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it's also crazy to still be able to do that and you know, people still being on the lookout for it. Yeah, that's a whole nother thing. Like, you know, you have those E40s that like, you know, their verses still matter.
You know, you're still having some 18 year old, 25 year old rappers, right. Going to E40 for a verse, but you know, get that for everybody.
Speaker A:Well, that's the cool thing about our region, you know, the Sacramento Bay area is that, you know, the independency, you know, when you go, when you go major, you know, a label can, can give you a little spotlight, your little shine for a little bit, then they'll shelve you, you. Right. But when you're independent, right, like think about too short.
Like he's been one of the longest pioneers of this, you know, the, of the independent route.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Still selling out, still doing, you know, I mean, being relevant.
Speaker B:Yeah. He's not waiting on nobody to drop. He's not waiting on nobody for an answer, right. To a question. He's just doing it how he wants to do it.
Speaker A:Right. I forgot who I was talking to or I think I was watching an interview. I was watching a Jay Diggs interview. But he also told me this in the studio too.
But he's like, the thing about being independent is like you go to smaller cities, right, that the majors, majors won't go to, but there's still a bag in every little city. So your bag don't add up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? And, and they'll show out for you just as much as like a major city would.
So that's the cool thing about being independent and you know, all money in to yourself really.
Speaker B:Oh for sure. And we're even seeing stuff, you know, over in Vallejo with the Russell right now. Right. He's doing like, he's making money in his own backyard.
Like, that's different. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, really able to. To make a venue for himself.
Really able to, you know, rehearse and make money off rehearsing and stuff like that. And, you know, the first goal is to be able to make money off something we love. Right.
The second goal is to make money off of, you know, where we're at, you know, and for him to, you know, create an ecosystem like that all of his own in his own city and stuff, it really shows that not only just in our area, but anybody across any medium, any city, any country, they can do it as well. It's the.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:The foundation's there. It's just for you to actually build. Build that foundation. Right. And just do it.
Speaker A:That's why, like. Like what we said in the beginning, like, you don't need all that fancy. Just do it, you know, make it happen. Make nothing into something.
Speaker B:Yeah. Because you can always get better as it goes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, you can never go back and say, damn, all right, let me go back and try it again. No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, you know, you can always improve as it goes.
So it's like sometimes, you know, as long as you get started, you're closer to the finish line than you are, you know, to where you started, in a sense, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, this is our season two first episode, you know, and we're back with new equipment and all that from what we started off to.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:It's just. Well, yeah, like you said, we started well. We could still have what we had, but we learned and we progressed from what we came from.
So it was like, why not, you know, better ourselves?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:You know, upgrade what we can. Right.
Speaker B:And sometimes you don't know where you can even improve until you put into practice.
Speaker A:Right. Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying? You don't know what to train until you. Until you fail at something, you know.
Speaker A:Right. You just got to do it. Yeah, yeah. And you learn as you go. As long as you don't stop.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure. It's like a muscle. You just keep training it, Keeps training it into the comfort levels there, because that's all it is.
Sometimes we doubt ourselves or there's like an uncomfortable, you know, feeling or something.
But, you know, once you just hit the ground and get moving and, you know, don't look back and stop worrying about what other people have to say about what it is you care about or.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's when you make the biggest, you know, the biggest improvements in your own life. I feel like when you put your.
Speaker C:Own passion into it too, because you just progress on wanting to learn more and more about it, you, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Just. Yeah, you're all in. Like you said, you know, you're all in. All in for it and all in for yourself for it, you know, on the gas.
Speaker E:Don't take it off.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, you gotta be. You really gotta be. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:So I mean, speaking, you know, obviously we're talking about the independent side and just working your ass off. I want to ask, you know, because I, I've. Like you said, we've been knowing each other for a long time. What is the most different from the artist?
Aaron Lee, from back in, you know, the pull up days. The, you know, the two bad days.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:As opposed to right now. Like what, what, you know, steps have you taken? What growth do you think is shining right now from.
Speaker A:From back then.
Speaker B:Back then to now. And that's allowing you spotlight to shine, you know?
Speaker A:That's a great question. Well, I want to give a big shout out to Q Made the Beat. My mentor when we first started, I mean I.
I was 16 at the time and didn't know how to really find my studio voice. You know, the difference between a studio voice and your live performing voice.
So being coached through him now, I think I'm able to hold my own like before because I've worked with him from 16 all the way till now. So I never went to any other studio, any other engineer once I really locked in with him.
So getting his coach and his mentorship really got me to the point now where I can go and to any studio and just hold my own, you know, and, and, and you know, not, not second. Well, sometimes we'd be second guessing ourselves, right? I'm like, we're not perfect. I'm not perfect. But. But I'm more confident for sure.
You know, more confident. And like back then I used to write in my notebook and stuff. Now I can just punch in line by line or just freestyle some shade.
Come up with a verse on the spot. The day of.
Speaker B:Okay, so.
Speaker A:So yeah, it's just. Just better at it.
Speaker B:No, those. Hey, and those are the days.
Speaker D:Those are the days.
Speaker B:That's what I was gonna say. Inside sources. Those, those sessions were interesting. He used to push you, bro. Like, he would push you.
Speaker A:You suck. Get out the bull. You really want to do this or not? Like, sit down and think for a second, you know, it's like, like studio sessions.
Speaker B:We know.
Speaker E:And then I'd be like, that sounds Tight. He'll be, like, not doing it right.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker E:And he starts singing in.
Speaker A:Be like this.
Speaker E:Like this.
Speaker B:Like. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Okay. No, I don't. Everyone's quiet, though. Everyone.
Speaker B:I thought that was dope. For real.
Speaker A:For real. But he. He definitely toned down a little bit, man, I love you, Q, but no, that's what.
Speaker B:That was what created greatness. That's what creates. Like, that's what builds that muscle, in a sense. You know what I'm saying? That's what also gets you ready.
Like, I remember from a young age, you were. Were really in tune with, like, your vocal chords and just taking care of your voice with the honey. Take tea before your sessions.
Like, you were always miles ahead of us. Like, you know, we were all 16, 17, and, like, you were the only one doing that. Right. You know what I'm saying?
But, like, I feel like a lot of, you know those things. A lot of, you know, cues, coaching, and those things are right. Are the reason, you know.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Your artistry was able to grow the way it was was because of every step, that every brick you laid along the way, you know?
Speaker A:Absolutely. 1,000%. Like, I always give it up to Q, bro, because, like, without that tough love, man, like, I would not be where I'm at today, bro. And.
Yeah, and it's. It's a lot, bro. Like.
Like, I'm not gonna say my homegirl's name, but I took her to a Q's studio one time because she wanted to record, and he made her cry. You know, he never made me cry, but let me tell you, I'll be mad, you know, But.
But I still always would book a session, though, because you always come out better. You always learn something, you know what I mean? Like, if they don't challenge you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? And you stay in your comfort zone, you're never gonna grow. And that's his thing, too.
It's like, man, he's doing it because he wants the best for you and the record, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so you got to just remember that. Yeah.
Speaker B:And how many. Like, you know, we were so young, doing like that and going to studios.
There are so many people who were just there, you know, they're just there for the check, you know, they're just gonna press record and record, and Q actually cared. Like, he was gonna challenge you. He's gonna challenge your ability or whatever. Come on.
You could try to harmonize that even if you thought you couldn't do it or whatever the case. Places with everybody who was going around that time.
So, you know, I definitely think that, like, those sessions and that tough love and stuff, it was hard to deal with in the moment because we was in this session, like, damn, like, we gotta go. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah, we gotta.
Speaker B:It just keep school tomorrow.
Speaker A:It's gonna be fun, dude.
Speaker B:I was going from football practice here in yelling to go to the session and be like, damn, this is just like, football practice. Yeah, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, man. But. But if you really want it, you're going to dug it out and really, really do it, you know? Like, it's like you unlock another level.
Like you said, I think I can't harmonize it. And I just did. Boom. Now. Now you got that under your belt.
Speaker B:Yeah. Now you're going to do it next time. Easy again, you know?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:And it's like you. You wouldn't even know, like, what it is you were capable of if you didn't have somebody trying to extend your.
Your bounds and saying, like, absolutely. And, you know, challenging that. Like, no, you could do it. You can do it. You know, if they listen to you.
If you were, you know, directing the record or whatever at that age or something. A lot of times, like I said, I had engineers that would just be like, yep, sounds good, right? You know, and they.
Speaker A:Yeah, because you remember, like, there'd be times where we'll. We'll practice at your house and then we'll go to the studio and we're like, that's not how we rehearsed it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he was like, nah, like, this is how it needs to be.
Speaker B:Yeah. And he would. Yeah, it would be totally different. And we would damn near not like the song because we'd be like, nah, bro.
It was supposed to be like this. But over time, our friends would listen to other people. They'd be like, no, that sounds good. Yeah. What are you tripping about?
Not just I never got it, but.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:That's why I gave up.
Speaker A:Sometimes I just gotta shut up and just listen, you know?
Speaker D:Is Q's studio still, like, home base for you? Are you still kind of, like, doing stuff? Like, you said that you record at home and stuff too. Like, you engineer at home.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Is Q like, your main spot to go to, or you still kind of like, go to other. Other people?
Speaker A:It depends. I mean, I was just with Q yesterday at his studio, but we weren't recording. We're just hanging out and stuff. But if I really need a record, like, so.
So the last time I recorded there was the Sacktown acoustic version So I did the. I did the original version on my crib, and then I was like, you know what? If I'm gonna do an acoustic version, then let's just take it to cues.
Make it sound a lot more professional, I guess you could say. But you could. You could totally hear the difference, you know? I mean, when I'm at my crib, I keep it simple.
With Q, he has hella harmonies all over the place, but it sounds fucking beautiful, though. But. But I'll go to a lot of other studios, you know, which is a blessing. And that's. That's the thing from then to now.
Like, now a lot of people are booking me more, you know, for verses, for hooks and stuff, and I'm going into their studio holding my own.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker A:So. So, yeah, I'm, like, all over the place. Yeah.
But a lot of it, I like to keep it at the crib because that way I can challenge myself to get better at engineering, you know? But if I really need some help or if I feel like, all right, this record could be bigger than what I can provide at home, then I'll take it to Q.
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker D:Speaking of the acoustic stuff, like, you. You did the acoustic version on Sacktown. Good. What was it? Good morning, Sack, or.
Speaker A:Yeah, we did a Good day, Sack. We did Good day, Sack. We did Studio 40 and Fox 40, which my brother, Shane Q. Big shout out to Shane Q. Yeah.
n the Voice back in, I think,: Speaker B:Good. Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who's that?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, you know, doing music, this. You'd be around other musicians, right? So I met him after he got back from the show, and we always connected. We had each other's contact.
We never had anything to work on. You know, we have two different fan bases. And. And. And I don't. I don't think he has originals, but he never really done originals.
Like, he tours around a lot of breweries and winers, but he does a lot of COVID songs, and he's amazing at it, you know, that's why I want to get him into the studio and do originals. But besides that, though, we always had each other's contact, and we never really used it. You know, we just, like. You know, like, yeah, we'll work.
Yeah, let me lock you in. You know, that type shit. But when I dropped Sacktown, I was like, I gotta do an acoustic version.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I texted three people, and he was the first one to respond back to me. And so from there, we just built that relationship and we've been rocking ever since. Can we.
Speaker B:Can we expect, you know, us more songs or more. Or even a project with you and Shane?
Speaker A:I would love to. I hope so. Definitely. I would love to, bro. I would love to. But it's just making that time and making sure everybody's schedule is aligned and.
And it got to be right, you know, got to be organic, you know, so. So yeah, like he's talented. That's amazing, bro. But I definitely would love to work with him on a project.
Speaker B:Yeah. Another Sacktown legend right there, you know.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So that we want to hear it. So that's why I had to ask people needed. We want to hear it. So, you know, Aaron, up. Let's get you guys in the studio.
Speaker A:It would be crazy to do like an all. An all acoustic.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Project. You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And your voice would just go so well with that. Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, both of our voices it together would be amazing, you know.
Speaker B:Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah. So. So yeah, it was great to do that on Good Day, Sack. And honestly, like we got onto that because of Shane, I'll be honest. You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They seen the record and how viral it went, but Shane already had connections with them, so they tapped in with Shane and then he brought me on and then from there we got to, you know, Studio 40 and all that stuff. But definitely he played a major role on getting us on national tv.
Speaker B:Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you know, just to kind of round that out, how. How are you feeling, bro? With just being able. You just said it. You're on national tv. You're about to hit one of the biggest.
You just hit the biggest stage to date. 11, 000 people. You're about to hit, you know, tens of thousands of more people over at Rolling Loud next weekend.
Not to mention the brand spartan partnerships and all the things you're doing, you know, I'm sure, you know, you didn't. Weren't thinking about that at 16. So how are you feeling right now? You know what I'm saying, man?
Speaker A:I feel blessed for sure. And it's crazy because I. Not to sound like cocky and stuff, but I always knew it was gonna happen. I just didn't know when, you know what I mean?
I didn't know it was gonna take 10 years to get here, but I'm glad I stuck to it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, right.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker A:You know, being young, I thought I was gonna do this in a year or two, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just being young.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But to have it come into fruition now and to see it all happen, it's been a blessing for sure. So I feel very grateful and just, like, try to keep my head down and just keep working, you know? Yeah.
Speaker B:And you did the work, so you deserve it.
Speaker A:So thank you, brother.
Speaker B:You have to feel grateful.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:I'm saying there's difference between being, like.
Speaker E:Blowing your head up, but, like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker E:Like, talk your bro, You.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:With the time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, from. From those, you know, days at Elk Grove, you know, to singing at Sac Republic last night, you know, like, you know, the growth is. It's undeniable.
And just seeing that, you know, can't be nothing but proud of you, bro.
Speaker A:Thank you, brother. Yeah. Thank you.
Speaker C:And for, like, any artist, too, they say it takes time, too, because sometimes you think it's an overnighter, but then you don't even realize they've been at it for forever. Like, Baby Face, right? I see an interview of him saying it took him, like, nine, 10 years.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And he's like. And, you know, he'd be surprised. He don't like when people say, man, you're so lucky you're able to rap.
Because he tells him, like, man, it took me 10 years. I've been busting my ass trying to get where I am.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Look at little Dirk, bro. Bro, he was rapping his ass off when we were in middle school type.
Speaker C:I thought he was huge back then, too.
Speaker B:He was doing songs with logic in high school, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Days dropped and saw that, like, I thought he was already, like, out there.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now he's. He's. He's, you know, taking on a whole, you know, Persona of his own and even transcended beyond that. You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, like I said, there's always a new level. There's always that. As long as you're forever a student, you're gonna keep, you know, reaching that next height and the next height.
Speaker A:Yeah. Forever a student and never giving up, because once you stop, that's when it all stops.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? And, yeah, bro.
Just putting in that time from the outside looking in, though, people gonna say, like, you know, it looks like it's overnight success, but they don't see the time in that. Yeah. You know?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Same thing with like. Like, it makes me think of Russ, you know, I mean, like, yeah, yeah, he blew up. But then when you.
He got to a point where everybody went back on his old catalog like, oh, he's been doing this for years, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And so, and that became. That became the whole topic of his name was he dropped a song every week for years. And it's like they didn't really realize that until years beyond.
He had already. He had already popped, he'd already went platinum multiple times before that even was a big thing.
And it became more than just a real time awareness type thing. It just became a testament, you know what I'm saying? Where it was like, hey, if anybody can, I just showed you. You can too.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Because 10 years of whatever it was, 11 projects, a song a week, you know, that's working your ass out. I couldn't even imagine, bro.
Imagine producing right in, man, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:And living in that.
Speaker A:Locked in. He's locked in, man. I love his book. I don't remember the name of his book. Excuse me. But it's a great book. Yes. You definitely read it.
It's like a yellow cover.
Speaker C:Russ's book.
Speaker A:Yeah, Russ's book. Yeah, It's a short read.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:Yeah, we got Drake's book somewhere around here.
Speaker B:We got a few. We got a few. Yeah. No, Phil Knight, Shoe Dog. I said that often.
You know, podcast has seen that before, but if you haven't read that one, the Agent too. That's a good one.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like reading, but I'm really into audiobooks.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It's easier.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker B:What you got, what you got in your rotation right now? What is one that, you know, people need to check out if they have it?
Speaker A:A really good classic book is the Alchemist.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a good book. That's a good one. Hustle Harder, hustle smarter by 50 cent. That's a really good one.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Robert Green's a great artist. All the laws and stuff. Those, those books are good. A lot of books I listen to are like more self help books.
Speaker B:Yep. Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's my thing. I can't really get into like the fantasy and all that stuff.
Speaker B:I'm the same way.
Like, I love, I love it to be like some type of biography or something about somebody's life in a testament or I like it to be about something I can, can I can apply to my everyday life, like Atomic Habits. That's another good one. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's a really good one.
You know, a lot of those books, there's another one, Let Be or something that I need to look at. Something like the Let B theory or, like, something. And it's, you know. That's the next one I want to check out.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker B:It's called.
Speaker A:But another good one is Ego is the Enemy.
Speaker B:Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Super short read that one.
Speaker B:Was.
Speaker A:That was. That's a good one.
Speaker B:No, that's lit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, you know, other than, you know, reading and stuff, we're talking a lot about your artistry. I do want to. Want to know, like, what would you say are your main inspirations, you know, artistically, but also, you know, you know, motivationally.
Speaker A:Yeah. Musically, of course. I love Chris Brown, man. I'll say that right now, because Brown, Michael Jackson. I with. I with Tory Lanez.
I like Tory Lanez, Eric Bellinger, you know, but then also, like, the old school artists like Smokey Robinson, of course, Janet Jackson.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anita Baker. Like, you gotta touch the old school and the new school.
And then as far as, like, just motivation, you know, all the motivational speakers, really, when I work out, put on like a little motivational thing, ET oh, okay. He's a good one. I used to like listening to David Goggins, but he'd be too extreme sometimes. I like what he's saying, but I.
Speaker B:Walk in 26 miles with broken legs.
Speaker A:But I can't even think of their names, really. But just if you type it in, like, you got all the classic people that are doing it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And. Well, when we're talking about, you know, you said a big thing was the old school. R B is a big inspiration for you.
What, you know, was that, like, a student of the game type thing that you got into as you were making music more, you started diving a lot deeper into music? Or is this something you. You came on and inspired your music starting off, in a sense, you know?
Speaker A:Good question, I think. Well, when I first got into music, I was actually a breakdancer at first. I started breakdancing when I was 9 or 10.
Follow my older brother's footsteps. So that's how we got in a.
Speaker B:High school type shit.
Speaker A:I wish, man. Shout out to the Jabbawockis, man, if you guys ever need somebody. You know, if I ever need you guys, man, let me take the mask off.
Speaker B:That'd be lit.
Speaker C:I do. I do that.
Speaker A:We go crazy.
Speaker B:Yeah, let me know.
Speaker A:But that's how I got into, like, hip hop music, R B and stuff. But from there, new school R B, and then, of course, they always sampling stuff.
So, you know, you just go into it and then you Remember my best friend Jacob? So he's a big music head. Like, he's a big, big music head. So he'll always just send me.
And that's how I kind of like learned about a lot of stuff was through him and just the frequency of it. For some reason, it just stuck with me more, you know, I mean, the old school and the new school. R B. Yeah.
But like, being a student, you got to know where it came from to know where you're going. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker B:No, definitely. Yeah. I only asked that because I know with me, like, when I was getting into music, tough.
That was something his dad actually put me on was like, yeah, hey, do a lot of research. He would show me like different artists that I never heard of or something. It's just like, you know, kind of student of the game. Like they.
It would inspire, like, even sample flips.
Like, I remember I used to send songs like that we would listen to or that his dad would show us and send them to a producer and be like, hey, I want to flip this. Just like, you know, like it just inspires a different idea or something.
You know, things that you wouldn't necessarily think of if you listen to the same sounding like, you know, music that you just always listen to.
Speaker A:Facts. Yeah. And the cool thing about like old school music is they didn't have all the technology that we do now, so.
So you really had to be about it, you know, you really have to really do it. And, and, and so listening to that like vocally, like, these are some real singers, you know, they can't be.
They can't hide behind the auto tune, you know, so. So you're really studying these people and.
Speaker B:The feeling is just. You can't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can't duplicate it. Like the feeling, right. Of some of those records before, you know, pre Auto Tune, pre Meldyne and all this type of like, you know, some of the.
Just the. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker A:Like sometimes the imperfection is what makes it dope.
Speaker B:Yeah. Made it perfect.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly. Like nowadays, everything's too on. We ain't nothing wrong with it.
Speaker B:You had, you know, you had like your artist like a key sweat or something. That nasally sound.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was what made him him, you know what I'm saying? Like, people liked you for you. It wasn't like, you know, a replication.
Whereas now we're kind of like hearing a lot more of that where, you know, you're. You. You love a sound, so you're going to replicate it or something. In a sense. And it's like, that's the one thing. Yeah.
Looking back at some of the old music, you just like get that feeling that just like, damn. You can't.
Speaker A:You can't replicate this. Yeah, man. For real. Like, there'll never be another Michael Jackson.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Oh, no. There's.
Speaker A:Yeah, some of those maybe is the general Michael Jackson's generation, whatever. But you know, it ain't never gonna be another Michael, though. You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, Chris Brown is.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's the king. For sure.
Speaker B:Chris Brown. Damn near one of the goats, though. I will say that.
Speaker A:Years ago. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Like, if you say Michael Jackson is the goat that.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, he's a. He's a second runner up.
Speaker B:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker A:In my opinion. In my opinion, somebody who can. Who can. Who can dance and sing and perform at a high level. Like, I've been to his can ax.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, come on, man. That's. That's best concert I've ever been to, cb. Hands down.
Speaker C:Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker D:Manifestation's a real thing, though. So I got one. One more question for you.
So, like, what's like an artist or some type of collab that you've always dreamed of or you've always like, maybe had in your head? Like, maybe like one day I'll get to that. And I got a lot. You gotta.
Speaker A:You, you know, you got a dream collaboration. But. But him would be dope. Jacques would be kind of crazy.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Tori, whenever he gets out.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know if I can last.
Speaker B:And what's Loki funny? Would. Would you say that, bro? It's Loki lucky funny because that was one thing that we actually bonded on when we were a lot younger was.
Was the fact that we both like really liked Tory Lanez at the time. Remember?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:We had the stay in your lane little song. Whatever. The beat was very Tory Lane's, like, reminiscent in a sense and stuff. We used to always talk about.
Tori, how are you feeling about that new project?
Speaker A:He just dropped Fire, fire, fire with it. I didn't get to the whole thing yet, but I got like halfway.
Speaker C:But so far, the jail pic of him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It'S different, bro. It's different. I was listening to it and like just a lot of his writing content and stuff. It's like, obviously, what else can he do?
He's obviously going to write about his own current circumstances and stuff. But yeah, his content's a lot different. But nonetheless, some of the songs are just. They're great songs, you know, Recorders.
Speaker A:Yeah, it sounds clear as he's doing.
Speaker C:It all over out how to tweak it.
Speaker B:He has a song about a female cop.
Speaker A:You know, and it sounds first one to really do it. And that's crazy because you know he's blackballed from the industries first so they can't stop him. You know, I mean that's why I love about it.
It's like he's really on his independent.
Speaker C:Oh yeah. And the fans will fumble him regardless.
Speaker A:Yeah. One umbrella. Come on.
Speaker D:Crazy.
Speaker B:No, he's dope for sure.
He's short and bro know I'll say dude that before all that happened we were all talking about how he's like one of the most talented rappers and like that realistic. Just his. His range.
Speaker C:He was producing, bro.
Speaker B:Name another dude who can make a. A hit trap song and then a hit dance hall song.
Then it hit R B record and then you know, a whole mixtape just on 90s samples that everybody just loved and ate up, you know. Yeah, yeah bro just went on a crazy. And then you see Quarantine radio just everything unstoppable. There was literally. Yeah, yeah. None. None bar none.
One of the craziest, you know, runs we saw. But like you said, just as quick as you could get it, it could.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's dope too. I seen him live. He opened up for Chris Brown a couple years ago. Yeah. Crazy stage presence.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:I mean way back in the day, huh.
Speaker B:That's what I was gonna say. One of the best shows we ever went to him.
Speaker A:Oh have been lit. What was that at where I think it was at Made in Tokyo.
Speaker B:Come on first. So it was like Uber everywhere. 16 was different but it was. It was crazy cuz this was like when Shaba ranks and all that was on. So you got.
You got ASAP Ferg doing Trap Lord one song and then he'd go off and then Tory Lanez would come on and do like a. Do like a new Toronto song and then he come and then Tory l would jump in the crowd and crowd back and then ASAP would come back on.
It was one of the craziest sets we saw. Just cuz they were just going back and forth and you'd have Ferg performing Tori's in the crowd and they're just. Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker C:Those Ace of Space shows get lit like when those artists come like when they're like their beginning years. Like I remember when 21 Savage came. Dude, he tore that was lit in that.
Speaker B:Hey Y'all don't remember Riff Raff though.
Speaker A:Man, That's. That's like pre Post Malone.
Speaker E:Didn't you open up for him or some.
Speaker B:He had more.
Speaker D:He had more Chris S fans up in that.
Speaker B:Yeah. We left at the. The set if Doug. It was. It was kind of thin there. It was like just gang of like our friends and so. But yeah, it was a funny night.
Speaker E:That f ended up rip Rap. He ended up just. I think what not finishing his former. Because he was so.
Speaker B:He got a. So bottle was chugging it on the stage and he got too drunk. It just couldn't. He couldn't even hear nothing. It was crazy.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:He just.
Speaker E:He just walked off too. I don't even think like mid song. He just walked off.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, I can't do this.
Speaker B:He was two tone in his jaw to for sure.
Speaker A:That reminds me, one time I seen Ty Dolla sign at It's Space. He had a bottle of Bombay passing around and this back then Pre co. Everybody's drinking. Let me get the.
Speaker C:See, dude, the label just dropped.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Y. Y bro, looking back that. Yeah, like you said Pre cover. We didn't give a. This dude smoking random joints at Dizzy Ride concerts.
Like, it's just like, bro. But now everybody would be like.
Speaker D:Concerts had a way different feel back in the day.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker D: young during that time, like: Speaker A:That was crazy.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, so many.
Speaker C:We went to so many concerts that year. I think I went to so many Gez and Logic concerts that year. Like they were everywhere. YG was out there too. Like I saw like them.
Those fools like the most that year.
Speaker A:Yeah, YG's lit. I remember I seen him at Ace of Spades one time.
Speaker C:Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A:She was lit. I was. This is. Back then I was on. I was off of Molly Mama. I was feeling that. Yeah, I don't do that no more though. I'm sober now. Three months sober.
Speaker B:Yeah, let's talk about that. How's. How are you feeling?
Speaker A:You know, I feel good, bro. Yeah. I always say I feel good, but, you know, but I feel more level headed, more clear minded. I'm really like focused.
But don't get me wrong, sometimes, you know, I'll be like, damn. Maybe I do. I do want to drink a little bit. But I'm like, yeah, for what?
You know, I mean, I came this far just to stop you know, so it's been a three month process. No. No liquor, no alcohol, no weed. And I stopped doing the hard stuff too, so it's been cool.
Speaker E:That's dope.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker E:Yeah, congratulations on that.
Speaker A:Thank you, brother. Thank you. I still smoke nicotine though. Sometimes it already kick. Yeah.
Speaker B:So with that's being such a big change in your life, what's. What's powering you through it? What's helping you?
Speaker A:You know, it sounds. It might sound corny to a lot of people, but God really, by the grace of God, it's a higher power, bro. You know, some people, you know.
Yeah, it's not, you know, so. So being more spiritual, not trying to not live in the flesh so much. You know what I mean?
And like, realistically, ever since I went sober, like, that's when everything started coming in abundance, bro. That's when went viral. All this happened. Like, I literally stopped in November. We started taking off in January now.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker A:It's. It for sure plays a major key to my success.
Speaker C:Did you. Were you like just kind of going down a path you were just. We're seeing yourself not liking a little bit?
Speaker A:Yeah. Yeah, I was. Last summer, I just never. It was. I just never stopped. Summer never ended for me, you know what I mean?
Like, I was drinking a lot, smoking a lot. I mean, I was always a big pothead living in Sacramento.
Speaker C:Yeah. You know what I mean?
Speaker A:You know, I mean, I don't have anything against trees. I love wheat, you know, I mean, I love it, but it got to a point where I'm just like non functional, you know what I mean?
And drinking a lot, gambling a lot. Yeah. So I was like, man, and I'm not even winning. I'm not.
Speaker B:Damn sky river was the worst thing that could happen to all of us.
Speaker A:Like, it's a gift and a curse. It's hard to hit there for some reason.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I feel like it's a hit or miss on some ones, I guess. I'm hearing these guys be hitting and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, blackjack.
Speaker E:He plays Bakara.
Speaker C:He's pretty good at it.
Speaker A:Yeah. Yeah. What do you. How many decks? I don't.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker E:Like, I don't really. Like, I don't with the single hand decks.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I do like seven. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:Like the eight deck and.
Speaker A: be hitting on like a, like a: Speaker E:I like Chris, but Chris will be down 100, 200 on the next.
Speaker B:Down to 12, huh? I'll double down to 12 without 12. I did it. Oh, yeah. I'm like, don't do it. And I was like, the dealer's even looking at you crazy.
I was like, are you sure you want to do that?
Speaker A:She's trying to give you icons. I'm like, don't do this, bro.
Speaker B:I was just drunk. So I was just like, it. I'm gonna do it. Was it on $100 bet or $50 bet? But it was something.
Speaker A:Yeah, double it got to be like that though. I mean, when you. When you. I. I hate to talk about it, but I love it. I hate it.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:But I do for fun now, you know, I mean, but. But when you play blackjack, you really can't do minimum because you're never gonna get your money back.
Speaker B:Not at all. Risk it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? Like, I remember one time this. This old white dude came in and he. And. And he put in all his chips, like a couple hundred firsthand.
He's like, come on, let's change up the energy in this place. And he. And the dealers gonna. He like, come on. He's like, give it to me, baby. Give it to me. Boom. Hit blackjack. I was like, what?
Just like that changes all night, changes the whole night.
Speaker B:Crazy. But yeah, no, my bad, my bad. But yeah, we even. We did a. Last. Last season, we did a degeneracy challenge. So we went to the casino.
Each of us, we had 200. We split up into two teams of two. We had 200 bucks per team and we had to. A 30 minute clock to whoever could win the most money for 30 minutes.
Speaker E:No, is. Well, me and Chris went first. We flipped it to like a few hundred. Like what, 600 bucks. While they're doing their set, I'm over the gambling.
Speaker B:Flip it even more.
Speaker E:They're like, where's the money? I was like, gone, bro.
Speaker B:So I'm filming these guys. I don't even know. He comes back, he's like, chris, cuz we don't got no more money. So we're. We're doing the end of it. Like, oh, who won?
And Kev's tried to say they won because we didn't have no more money. Cuz he.
Speaker D:They technically lost all their money.
Speaker A:Yeah, technically.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker B:He was like.
Speaker C:He sees it that way too.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, yeah, you got to hold on to it.
Speaker B:But it was so. It was after the clock and I wasn't there. I was filming them. I just tucked up on my Own. He just tucked up and I said, why didn't you ask me first?
He's like, bro, you wouldn't have asked me that if I would. Yeah.
Speaker A:So what did you guys end up with?
Speaker C:Like five something?
Speaker B:400? Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, man. Fine, man. It's fun. But it's easy to get lost in.
Speaker D:That because he hit on that.
Speaker B:Yeah, he lost crazy. He lost crazy. And then he hit for 400 on the bakara. So they.
Speaker A:Did you hit like a panda or something.
Speaker C:I didn't know what was going on. I just put the money and then. And then she gave me all these chips. I'm like, yeah.
Speaker B:He was so excited.
Speaker A:We was that sky.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah. It was like on a what? Wednesday?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, yeah, There you go.
Speaker C:Is that the day to hit or what?
Speaker A:I be losing there. Don't.
Speaker B:I heard Thursdays and Mondays.
Speaker A:Is that what it is?
Speaker C:That's the day that it drops.
Speaker E:I feel like every time I go.
Speaker B:On the weekend, Thursday you got all. You got all the money pumping from the whole week before the weekend or something. And then Monday you have all the money pumping from that weekend.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Something like that. That's what they say, but I don't know if that's the truth. Monday, get after Dennis Graham. Because Drake's dad was the one who said it.
Speaker C:Yeah, the weekends are packed. Crazy. Crazy though, man. Yeah, it is.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:You see how Pat we. I tried to meet up with him yesterday.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker C:It was busy. Like tennis.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's hot.
Speaker E:Couldn't even park nowhere. Can't even. You're like.
Speaker C:They got the construction trailers out there too. Parking lot. So everyone's just trying to get up in there.
Speaker B:It's even gonna get worse when they got phase two going and they start building the tower and everything. Yeah.
Speaker A:That's another hotel, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're gonna do it is gonna be cool.
Speaker C:I wonder how like Ratchet's going to get though.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's already kind of, you know.
Speaker C:People to stay the night.
Speaker B:It's just going to be coming like Thunder Valley. Probably everybody be post for the week. When you have a good night though, it's going to be lit. You just be like, hey, it upstair here, right? Yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz I mean, I mean if you drink too much. Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, if you win big, they might offer you a room too.
Speaker B:You're using your membership card or something.
Speaker E:They're like, yeah, we're going to need some of that back.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker E:Keep your ass there.
Speaker C:We have A suite, actually, with your name on it.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's crazy. You know what's crazy is I actually built some of that when I was part of the union back then. I was pulling wire for them back then.
So to see it from construction, you know, nothing to what it now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm like, damn, that's cool.
Speaker C:That's always cool, too.
Speaker A:It's cool. Yeah, it's dope.
Speaker B:It's crazy seeing some of that stuff like. Like being in construction and stuff. Just seeing like, some of it go from just. You know, it's crazy. Like, I. I was just looking at that in blueprints.
I did not think it was gonna look like that. You know what I'm saying? Seeing it in person is a whole different thing.
Speaker A:For sure. Have you guys checked out the cigar lounge in there?
Speaker B:No, no, I walked by a few times.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Occasionally.
Speaker A:Okay. Yeah. I mean, occasionally.
Speaker B:Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:If I'm in Vegas, I'm going to the cigar bar.
Speaker A:You said what?
Speaker B:If I'm in Vegas, I'm going to the cigar bar.
Speaker A:Yeah. Would you break down the cigar? Put weed?
Speaker C:No, no, I don't even smoke cigars. Like, you know what I.
Speaker A:The cigar lounge is tight, though.
Speaker C:It's this sig of weed.
Speaker A:I remember me and my boys tried to do that one time. We was young. It was. Yeah. We broke down a whole cigar and stuffed it with some weed. It was a horrible rap. It did not go well.
Speaker B:I probably thought this was the same as a switcher.
Speaker A:Yeah, you might be better off cutting off.
Speaker C:I tried to smell like a Cuban. My boy's, like, it was his high school graduation. Sneaked in his dad's Cuban cigar stash.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And me, I mean, I had to. Something over here just. Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker E:Oh, dude.
Speaker C:It was the worst cough and the worst throw up of my life. Like, I was delusional for a quick, like, good five seconds. Yeah, the nicotine hit me so hard, y'all, was. I need the Snickers, you know.
Speaker A:Man. Yeah. You never want to inhale it.
Speaker C:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:Yeah, but that's just natural, cuz you right. Yeah.
Speaker B:And you. Yeah, you smoke it like you smoke it. So else. But yeah. The perfect time to smoke a cigar, though, I will say, is golfing. You golf at all?
Speaker A:I don't. I've never done a full, like, what they call it? Rounds or 18 holes. 18 holes? I've never done that. But I've done the golfing range, though.
Like, we just stand There.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I would love to do it, though. But we gotta do it.
Speaker B:Yeah, we gotta do it. Let me know. Do it.
Speaker A:Let me know.
Speaker B:Yeah, we went golfing not too long ago. We filmed it and stuff. Just.
Speaker A:Oh, that's lit a little day vlog. Yeah. Teach me something. I'm not the best golfer, but, you.
Speaker E:Know.
Speaker A:You don't be sore after you out there, like, two, three hours.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, sometimes you'll be a little sore, but it's a good time, bro. Especially, I mean, not you, but, you know, with us, we go out there, we're drinking a little bit, we're, you know, I just drive. Yeah. You know, it's.
It's a good time, like becoming adults. It's like you don't always want to party or you don't always want to.
It's tough to always find something you want to do on the weekend or go out or something. But it's a good time with the guys to just. Just, you know, get out in public, get out in the open. Just kind of have a good time.
And, you know, it also gives you a reason to drink during the day.
Speaker A:I have nothing against drinking. It's fun, bro. Having a couple beers with the bros and it's. It's nice, you know? Yeah, it's nice for sure. I just.
I think I just got to find that middle ground right now. I'm on the sober end, and then once I get over, then I'll be like, all right, this is my middle ground. You know?
Speaker C:I mean, that's what always happens to, you know, because sometimes we always. We always all do go over the.
Speaker B:Edge a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah, I be turning into a demon, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:One thing.
Speaker B:Thing I can't lie about is we all take our breaks, bro. We all. We all get to the point where we like, damn. No, I gotta take a break for a few minutes, bro. Yeah, I just p it too far for a little bit.
Speaker A:You know, it be like that. I hate that dry heing up.
Speaker B:Allstar weekend, they came out all star weekend to the bay area. We were going out. We were going out. We hit a couple parties and. And it was a good time. But, dude, all of us were just.
Speaker E:Are we getting older? Hit me for like, two days after.
Speaker B:We went to a day party by the night party. We were like, dude, I don't know if we can make it. We made it, but it was just not like college, bro. It's not like you could. Like.
Speaker A:I can't bounce back like that, unfortunately, man. Man. Yeah, but Health is wealth, right?
Speaker B:No, for sure, for sure. You got to put that first. Especially, like, in the a.
At the age we're getting, you know, we have so many responsibilities, so many priorities and stuff. Sometimes you let yourself fall behind, and it's like, that is, like you said, it's important to. To have those measures of, like.
No, I need to reel it back in.
Speaker A:Right, for sure. Yeah. I think if I wasn't sober, I'd probably go crazy at my own left.
Speaker C:But, you know, thank God I'll be sober.
Speaker B:So I'll just be. You know, it's all work, and that's. That's why the blessings are going to keep coming tenfold. You know what I'm saying?
It's because you're doing the work and you're ready for the. The outcome, you know?
Speaker A:Sir.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You plan on coming back to, like, alcohol and weed, or are you trying to just go forever?
Speaker A:I probably would go back one day, but who knows? You know, I'm just taking it day by day. I don't really have a set time on it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean? Like. Like, my boy Jacob, he's about to get married. He has a bachelor party coming up in April.
So I'm like, maybe I'll congratulate for sure my brother.
Speaker C:Where are you guys doing that at?
Speaker A:We're gonna go to Reno.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So. So we're gonna get a little disrespectful. Airbnb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably go to the casino out there, you know.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker E:Chips on the table.
Speaker A:Yeah. But who knows? I mean, I might drink them, but even then, like, I might not, you know, I don't have any urge to go back to it.
Speaker B:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, like, I still be around with all my boys and stuff, you know, so.
Speaker C:Yeah. Because, like, for me, I've been smoking for a long time, since I was, like, a kid.
And, Yeah, I always tell myself, too, like, man, I remember there was a time where I. I was having fun with life. I didn't need no substance or nothing. And. And then, like, I was smoking smoke for, like, a week.
I was like, I'm gonna go smoke today, and then I'll smoke. I'm like, oh, baby. But it's like, I do feel good when I'm not smoking, but it's like, I don't know. It's just, like, the fun of it, I guess.
I don't know what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:Like, it just sucks. Like, it's so. Financially, it's just. It's such a Burden. Because it's expensive. It can't get expensive. But it's just like smoking cigarettes, though.
So it's like, absolutely. What am I gonna. You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:My battles. But. But it's at the same time, it's like I do want to go back to the life where I was just a normal non substance user.
Speaker A:Yeah. I mean, everything in moderation, though.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And then especially, like I said, being from Sacramento, California, smoking weed is nothing, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's. That's the norm. Yeah. You can't, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So that's why I try to find the balance of it, you know, it's like I try not to allow myself to just be so consumed with it, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:If I can, I'll take a break. If not, just try not to be hi all the time, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Don't have to be at this family party.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker C:I can.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You know, just like that.
Speaker A:I don't need to go to the grocery store. Hi.
Speaker B:I can wait till I'm home and like. Yeah, I'll be feeling that type of day, like. Right. I need to just relax.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker A:I just wake and bake, though.
Speaker B:Yeah. Especially during COVID Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:My boy got into. You guys ever had, like, THC oil?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Just put into your hot tea in the morning throughout the day. So, like, I was trying to, like, find. Find different ways of, like, not smoking, you know, but still getting lit off marijuana. Yeah.
Speaker C:But still being part of the culture.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right. But even then, like, it was weird. Like, it made my smell like weed. Yeah.
Speaker E:The different products that they have right now in the cannabis industry is insane.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They got everything. They do. Some of the he's brought home and showed me, like.
Speaker E:Like, it's crazy. I work at a dispensary, so you work with one. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He brought home dog tinctures, bro. They were like, what's that? It was like weed for dog.
Speaker A:Like, the oil before, Is that CBD or is that thc?
Speaker E:It's a little bit above, like, very little thc, but it's majority of cbd. But you give it to your dog. A lot of people do it if your dog's like, sick or something or during fourth of July. So they're not going.
Speaker A:They're just on snooze, be chilling.
Speaker E:It works too.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's crazy. Crazy, man. I love it.
Speaker C:Hey, we saving the world, man. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:It's really not bad.
Speaker B:They got little Sugar pills. Now even they got tablets. Little tablets. You just take a little pill and it's just. It gets you high type.
Speaker C:I haven't seen that. I've seen, like, the.
Speaker B:Yeah. What?
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker E:Sodas that taste like.
Speaker A:No. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker B:I knew about the drinks you got paps making. Don't. Doesn't pass.
Speaker E:Yeah, like, wow or whatever.
Speaker C:Monster too. Did it Monster dabble into.
Speaker E:Not that I know Mary Jones is.
Speaker C:They got monster. Did too.
Speaker B:Maybe not.
Speaker C:Maybe not.
Speaker B:It never hits me how, like, prevalent that is out here. Like you were saying until you go somewhere else.
Like, I went out to Miami with my girl and, bro, just, like, the amount of, like, people smoking and, like, trying to hide it after. You can't be out. They're not just out in public smoking and stuff. Like, cops will stop you and.
Whereas, like, for us, you could be smoking in front of sky river, right next to the cop. He'll come dap you up and say, powder o.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker B:Other drugs.
Speaker A:Over there. I remember. I remember one time I was in LA years ago for this TV audition, and one of my boys, he was from Philly. That's the east coast, right?
He's from Philly. And he's like, right, we going to smoke some weed. And I'm like, all right. BET rolled up a swisher, but it was like a twig, bro. It's so thin.
I'm like, we just smoked a R. Like, what is this?
Speaker E:Other people in other states. It's like, you see them rolling up and then they like. Like they got the little pencils on. You're just like a.
No disrespect, but that ain't enough right now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:What is this, bro?
Speaker E:People smoke splits, too?
Speaker A:Yeah, Splits, Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah. Well, they'll do the. The tobacco half and half.
Speaker A:Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker B:Or people be doing the mokes, right?
Speaker E:Make it hella sick.
Speaker B:You're a dirty dog with that.
Speaker C:Like, I remember when Dabs first came about, you know Dabs? Oh, yeah, the titanium. Now, people would just hit those red hot.
Speaker A:Not even.
Speaker C:Oh, you'd be burning your lung off.
Speaker E:I used to hide my. From my mom. I don't look like a crackhead.
Speaker B:Yeah, we've been at Boochi's house. I'm like, they look at us like we're.
Speaker C:My parents. First time found. Like, one of my dad, he's like, what are you. I was like, I swear it's concentrated.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's just funny. Y still be dabbing.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Damn, y'all are stunners.
Speaker D:I Haven't smoked since last July. Talking about it, I'm just like, damn, I haven't smoked. I miss it a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like once you see I'm not even gonna cap. He just said the other day, I kind of want to smoke, but I'm not. I was like, no, don't, don't. It's like, I don't have to.
Speaker D:It's only when I'm like, around people. Like when I'm just chilling by myself.
Speaker B:Myself. I'm not. Right?
Speaker D:Yeah, like. But it's just like the social urge to be like, oh, right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:I'm trying to get lit too.
Speaker A:It's good that you ain't folding though.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:You know, I haven't smoked since last July.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro. Wear that like a.
Speaker D:Hey, bro, everybody gotta.
Speaker B:You gotta make that.
Speaker A:Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker D:Somehow.
Speaker E:I just gave up smoking weed for Lyn, so.
Speaker C:Did you really?
Speaker A:Yeah. Anybody else Catholic in here?
Speaker C:I didn't give anything up.
Speaker A:I should.
Speaker C:Maybe today I'll think of something.
Speaker A:Figure something out. Yeah.
Speaker C:I think I want soda or something.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker C:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:That's what I was going to Dr. Pepper.
Speaker A:For 40 days.
Speaker E:They're having trouble.
Speaker B:He couldn't do that.
Speaker A:You get the knockoff brand? Yeah. No, no, no.
Speaker C:I still love my. My Dr. Thunder.
Speaker A:Dr. Pepper is fire. Their commercials are funny as Dr. Pepper.
Speaker C:Sponsors number two soda right now. They beat. They took Pepsi out of the the league right now.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah. Oh, wow.
Speaker A:I did not know that.
Speaker B:Coke is the most popular. I'm surprised Sprite isn't up there, bro. I feel like everybody likes Spice. My favorite.
Speaker A:Coco is my favorite. But Sprite's my second.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:If we had the research. I don't want to know. I want to know what Sprite number is on what number.
Speaker E:Sprites is probably like seven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No way. After what.
Speaker D:Yeah, Sprites, literally.
Speaker C:I think every time. Honestly.
Speaker D:Place you go to.
Speaker C:Yeah. Cuz Sprite's probably like the second choice.
Speaker B:I'd say Sprites is three if you say Dr. Peppers. If Dr. Pepper's two and Coke is one, I'm putting it's probably three.
Speaker A:What about Mountain Dew? You guys like Mountain Dew Baja Blast? Yeah.
Speaker E:When I was younger, I used to.
Speaker B:Oh yeah. Like the code reds. Like the purple or whatever the different colors. I thought they were cool when I was a kid, but now I'm just like, yeah. Damn.
I don't want to drink nothing.
Speaker D:Like the. The Spike Baja Blast of the cantina. The Taco Bell Cantinas.
Speaker C:Oh, those guys.
Speaker E:The Freezes.
Speaker B:Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. So if you go to, like, Newport beach or something, you go there, they give you the freeze, and they ask you what alcohol they want.
They just got bottles behind them. So they just take like a rum.
Speaker A:Bottle, put one in downtown.
Speaker B:I haven't been to that one. I've only been to the one.
Speaker D:I've never been to that either, but.
Speaker E:I can't eat my stomach.
Speaker A:Yeah, me too. That's like piss coming out your ass. That's like. I hate. That's like, probably my worst fast food. If I hadn't.
Speaker B:I agree. And I don't know what the hype is behind it. I don't know why so many people love it. I think you two love it, don't you guys?
Speaker D:The only thing I really like. The only thing I really like is the Crunch Trap Supreme. That's like the only thing.
Speaker C:Crunch Trap Supremers.
Speaker A:I with their nacho. Those the cheese, for some reason be hidden.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You can't go wrong with the quesadilla.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just the case.
Speaker A:The chicken. Yeah, that one's good too.
Speaker C:But their meat is for sure questionable.
Speaker B:For sure. I'm Jim boys is the one.
Speaker C:I've never had no Del Taco before. On a late night, I've never had it. I think that's like an El Grove thing for sure. But, like, out here. Yeah, we didn't have it out here.
Speaker D:Hey, bro, I'm so out. They got Del talk on every corner.
Speaker B:California.
Speaker D:They have D on every corner.
Speaker B:Every corner, bro. When we moved out there, bro. If you. Because this. This was before. This was before Kane's was out here. So if you.
When we moved out there, the only late night eats you could get were Jack in the Box, Del Taco, or Canes. Because Canes was open dumb late. So we would just always hit one of those three. And these fools always wanted Del Taco. I'm like, I'm not eating, bro.
That's cool.
Speaker D:It's like, bro, you can mix it up.
Speaker B:Instead of getting chicken fingers.
Speaker E:I with can sponsor us.
Speaker A:I. Yeah, give us that sponsor.
Speaker B:I wouldn't say yeah. When. When it was first rolling out and people were like, oh, my God, it's life changing. Like, I don't agree with that. Like, I think it's just.
It's good chicken tender. Exactly.
Speaker A:Get the job done.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:It's not like a couple times for it.
Speaker B:It's not like one of those fast food. I'm not big on like the fast food restaurants you eat and like you're not feeling good at after like, you know what I'm saying?
Like whether it's Wendy's, Wendy's, McDonald's like Taco Bell, Wendy's.
Speaker A:Chicken nuggets hit.
Speaker B:No, they're.
Speaker C:Yeah, the nuggets are good.
Speaker B:They're fire for sure. But I try, I'm. I'm not going to lie. I try to stick with like In n out, Chick Fil a or Chipotle, something like that.
Because like those will always make I always feel good.
Speaker E:But that be my stomach up too every time.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker C:I just like when Chipotle doesn't.
Speaker D:It's the red sauce.
Speaker A:I swear I do the spice.
Speaker B:I don't get that sauce. That's why.
Speaker D:Well I. I stopped getting it. But no, like him, like he's saying like for a minute, for a minute.
Speaker A:You like it when wet.
Speaker C:Oh, I don't like when Chipotle. They don't got a good burrito roller there.
Speaker A:It just ruins before you begin. The burritos.
Speaker C:I mean I try to but when they. I see the burritos trash. I'm like, yeah, it's the last time I'm coming here.
Speaker A:There was. What was that restaurant? It wasn't Free Birds. They used to make some crazy burrito.
Speaker C:They'd be rapping fat one too. Like the monster burrito or some.
Speaker B:I forgot cuz there was a cool minute where they were like neck and neck with Chipotle when the Ebola was coming out. Remember back in the.
Speaker C:Were they a franchise or were they just that one store?
Speaker B:They were a franchise from what I thought. I thought.
Speaker C:I don't know. I just know them one right there. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know, I thought.
Speaker B:I don't know, maybe I just.
Speaker C:Come on, bring them back.
Speaker B:I went like once. Didn't they. Didn't they turn into CH and then close down too?
Speaker C:Who.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure that. That Free Birds turned into Chandos, right? Yeah, but Chanda's closed down too because that one was bro.
Speaker E:The best Chandos is downtown on Arden.
Speaker B:The one.
Speaker A:Arden? Yeah, the little shack. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:The rest is like hella gentrified.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:I've only been to the one on. Is it power in?
Speaker E:That one's decent.
Speaker C:Yeah, I've been to the El Gross.
Speaker D:Spot when I was.
Speaker A:That's only.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Get him out of here. Super Taco. Yeah, Super Taco.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:I love Super Taco, man. I love Super Taco That's. That's my boy's family's restaurant. I was literally just over there today at their cantina Sundays.
Speaker B:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:It's an event they do every Sunday from 12 to 4. Hey, shout out Super Taco. Hey, give me, sponsor me.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:Do something. Every Sunday, they bring a DJ out from 12 to 4. Something for the community they play. You know what I'm saying? You could win a big dope.
Speaker B:That's lit.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know it's lit.
Speaker B:We got to check that out. We got to check out.
Speaker A:That's a spot too. It's tight, but the food actually hit though. The food really, for sure. Food is good.
Speaker B:Burrito for dinner right now to go to. Because it was like just kind of close to us type.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, no, they. They go crazy. Crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's for sure.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker A:With Super Tacos.
Speaker C:Super Taco is good.
Speaker A:Yeah, Super Taco.
Speaker B:Hey, Taco Bell. But I. With Super Taco.
Speaker A:Big facts.
Speaker B:No, but, you know, with that being said, I think we could wrap this one up if you. Unless you guys got anything. Yeah, man.
Speaker C:I mean, anything. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker B:We really appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker C:Our first guest for season two.
Speaker B:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you. I appreciate you guys, man.
Speaker B:Before you get out of here, let them know what to look forward to. Let them know where to find you. What?
Speaker A:You know, you can find me on YouTube @ Aaron Lee, which is a R O N L E. You can find me on all streaming platforms. Stay tuned for more work. Just. Just stay tuned for the journey. Really.
Speaker B:So, yeah, sure.
Speaker C:Congrats on everything you got going. Everything coming, dude.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker E:Once again, if you heard that song, go listen to that song, Sack Town.
Speaker A:Yeah, go run up all my old stuff too. I got some hitters in there, some hidden gems, man. But yeah, this. This was amazing, man. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker B:No, no, we want to have you back again. Hopefully we can have you back here soon.
Speaker C:Loud to us.
Speaker B:Tap back in, see. See what's been moving since. Cuz we know there's a bunch of on your horizon.
Speaker C:You might be Hollywood by then.
Speaker A:I ain't never going to switch up. Hell no. I got to always remember where I come from. You know what I mean? That Hollywood.
Speaker B:No, definitely, we appreciate you, bro. It was a pleasure, bro. It was a pleasure talking to you, man.
Speaker A:And likewise.
Speaker C:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:All right, y'all, if you haven't already, like, comment, subscribe and tap in peace, sir.
Speaker C:Peace out, y'all.
